That would be a good decision. Thank you Mr. Garg.
Saoj Kasaju On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 1:52 pm, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > I checked all our observations in efi site. > I think keys above are not proper and there is no clear cut demarcation > between the two species as pointed out by keys above. > Lobes are quite variable with a single post showing one, one and a half > lobes. Some are showing more than two lobes and I think it depends on the > age of the leaf also. > Immature leaves are showing more lobes compared to mature leaves. > > I think flora by Dr. Almeida gives *Thunbergia fragrans var. laevis* as a > syn. of *Thunbergia fragrans *as per thread: Please identify this climber > - 080311NS-8 > <https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/54e73798af217e70?hl=en#> > Different sources available online, show both the species with > contradicting descriptions, as below: > An Excursion Flora of Central Tamilnadu, India > <https://books.google.co.in/books?id=umMFT6tKtrkC&pg=PA387&dq=Thunbergia+fragrans+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiLqumChpblAhUJL48KHX3HBSgQ6AEIMjAB#v=onepage&q=Thunbergia%20fragrans%20%2B%20india&f=false> > By > K. M. Matthew (1995) > Flora of Davanagere District, Karnataka, India > <https://books.google.co.in/books?id=cXD2eUj3dzcC&pg=PA309&dq=Thunbergia+fragrans+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiLqumChpblAhUJL48KHX3HBSgQ6AEIOjAC#v=onepage&q=Thunbergia%20fragrans%20%2B%20india&f=false> > By > B. K. Manjunatha (2004) > Gardening in India > <https://books.google.co.in/books?id=nt0k-zQzllwC&pg=PA435&dq=Thunbergia+fragrans+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiLqumChpblAhUJL48KHX3HBSgQ6AEIQTAD#v=onepage&q=Thunbergia%20fragrans%20%2B%20india&f=false> > By > George Marshall Woodrow, G Marshall (1999) > > *In view, I feel let us have only one species as Thunbergia fragrans > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/thunbergia/thunbergia-fragrans>.* > > > On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 12:37, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> We have been mostly considering our posts as *Thunbergia fragrans *Roxb >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/thunbergia/thunbergia-fragrans>. >> so far, based on references herein. >> However, Catalogue of Life gives following with distribution in India: >> *Thunbergia laevis *Wall. ex Nees var. *laevis* >> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/e7ac89b8e94d6b9222fa228ba6aee0e4> >> (India (E- N- & peninsular India), Sri Lanka, Mauritius (I), La Runion (I), >> Rodrigues (I), Sierra Leone (I)) >> *Thunbergia laevis* var. *parviflora* (Trimen) L. H. Cramer >> <https://mail.google.com/col/details/species/id/5b2c1d0b497d5bd6b8a61de0e55e4402> >> (Sri >> Lanka) >> *Thunbergia laevis* var. *vestita* (Kees) L. H. Cramer >> <https://mail.google.com/col/details/species/id/2cd42c92e8367bad70057c9bd199bd48> >> (Sri >> Lanka) >> *Thunbergia fragrans* subsp. *fragrans* >> <https://mail.google.com/col/details/species/id/f2fd1d1a425b993290f86cf98ae49281> >> () >> *Thunbergia fragrans* var. *hispida* Gamble >> <https://mail.google.com/col/details/species/id/846808dfbbc9200ab8d8ba253e0a83d1> >> (India >> (Andhra Pradesh)) >> *Thunbergia fragrans* var. *vestita* Nees >> <https://mail.google.com/col/details/species/id/ddd77f5fc5000682f22062e9fbcf5f34> >> (India >> (S-India)) >> >> I tried to find out the differences between these and found one source at A >> Revised Handbook to the Flora of Ceylon -, Volume 12 >> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=Lv9B9ZLeu30C&pg=PA11&dq=Thunbergia+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=0qrTU5rmBpOHuATauIL4DQ&ved=0CDUQ6AEwBTgK#v=onepage&q=Thunbergia%20%2B%20india&f=false> >> By >> M. D. Dassanayake (1998) >> Keys are as below: >> Leaves with a pair of basal lobes on either side, flowers usually >> solitary in leaf axils- *Thunbergia fragrans* >> Leaves with a single basal lobes on either side or entire, flowers 2-4 in >> leaf axils- *Thunbergia laevis* >> >> *Thunbergia laevis *var. *laevis* - stem strigulose or glabrescent on >> angles. Flowers 2-3 in leaf axils. Corola limb 10-11 mm across lateral >> lobes. >> *Thunbergia laevis *var. *vestita* - stem and leaves distinctly scabrid, >> hispid or hirsute. Flowers often solitary. Capsule tomentose. >> *Thunbergia laevis *var. *laevis* - stem and leaves glabrous or sparsely >> puberulous. Leaves 2.2-5.6 * 1.5-3.3 cm, generally with one basal lobe on >> either side. Flowers 1-3 in leaf axils; pedicels slender, to 2 cm long; >> corola less than 2.5 cm across lateral lobes. >> >> Right now I am not sure weather to follow them or not. >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> >> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >> >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >> world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >> Efloraofindia >> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >> database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than >> 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). >> >> The whole world uses my Image Resource >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >> >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >> India'. >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or > Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than > 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). > > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as > per Creative Commons license attached with each image. > > Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of > India'. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFD8wbo6L%3Dg07ib7nf6CbwsZrjj7jrUifUzcQwUFXmBPnA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFD8wbo6L%3Dg07ib7nf6CbwsZrjj7jrUifUzcQwUFXmBPnA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- Thank you. Saroj Kasaju -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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