I was judging based on composite image at at Tribulus complex <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/indiantreepix/Tribulus$20AND$20lanuginosus/indiantreepix/6pt33pI2DJ8>
On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 at 17:18, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: > Garg ji, here is another which is not uploaded to flickr because of very > poor quality of the photo. > May be this will help in judging the length of style. I hope other aspects > (stamens, anthers) help in gauging length of style. > I think the length of style is very minimal. > Regards. > Dinesh > > On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 5:11 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Apologies Garg ji, I thought I had seen fruits of this plant, but they >> were of *Pedalium murex*. I think I am working very very hard :) >> I am attaching original photo (of what we see in this post). >> Since the capacity of attachment is 8MB, I am attaching only one photo >> here. >> Please check when time permits whether the length of style is negligible >> / appreciable. >> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 4:34 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> To me fruits are not visible in your images. Otherwise also,we have to >>> rely more on the key based of Style. >>> >>> On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 at 10:55, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Garg ji, >>>> I went through links ... that you mentioned in your line ... "only >>>> *Tribulus >>>> terrestris *var. *bicornutus* (Fisch. & C.A.Mey.) Hadidi is reported >>>> from India, as per distribution given at the links." >>>> >>>> It can be seen as follows: >>>> *Tribulus terrestris* L. >>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/ff293b28a444c6d7bf16b4bd2c710db9> >>>> * India (widespread)* >>>> *Tribulus terrestris var. bicornutus* (Fisch. & C. A. Mey.) Hadidi >>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/9fcaf4d86a3a1f97d43763dc497305a7> >>>> >>>> *India (widespread) * >>>> *Tribulus terrestris var. rajasthanensis* (Bhandari & V. S. Sharma) F. >>>> Al-Hemaid & Jacob Thomas >>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/99136a0c9f5ce39a28b4a9e82cff4a0c> >>>> India (Rajasthan, Gujarat) >>>> >>>> As per keys and details at Tribulus complex >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/indiantreepix/Tribulus$20AND$20lanuginosus/indiantreepix/6pt33pI2DJ8> >>>> that you suggested in earlier post in this thread, Vijayasankar ji's poster >>>> shows fruits of three species. >>>> In that, I see fruits of my posted plant is much closer to the parent >>>> species: *Tribulus terrestris* than that of *Tribulus lanuginosus* >>>> What are your thoughts? >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 9:48 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, Dinesh ji. >>>>> Among all the varieties given in Catalogue of Life >>>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/search/all/key/Tribulus+terrestris+/fossil/1/match/1>, >>>>> only *Tribulus terrestris *var. *bicornutus* (Fisch. & C.A.Mey.) >>>>> Hadidi is reported from India, as per distribution given at the links. >>>>> So we may take this one only. >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 7 Dec 2019 at 23:36, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Garg ji, >>>>>> >>>>>> At GBIF, I had gone through various pages, and concluded as follows: >>>>>> *Tribulus terrestris* L. ... *synonyms, sub-species, varieties* at >>>>>> GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/species/5421116> >>>>>> *Tribulus lanuginosus* L. ... synonym of variety *Tribulus >>>>>> terrestris* var. *bicornutus* (Fisch. & C.A.Mey.) Hadidi ... status >>>>>> at GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/species/5635159> >>>>>> It was too confusing for me to dig into varieties of *Tribulus >>>>>> terrestris*. >>>>>> Let me know whether you think posted plant has to be labelled >>>>>> explicitly as *Tribulus lanuginosus* L. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 10:44 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> May be *Tribulus lanuginosus* as per keys and details at Tribulus >>>>>>> complex >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/indiantreepix/Tribulus$20AND$20lanuginosus/indiantreepix/6pt33pI2DJ8> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 at 20:48 >>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:335700] Tribulus terrestris :: Puducherry :: >>>>>>> 15 OCT 19 >>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: Pondicherry] >>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F49113641273%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNF5pirOmx-bITzNj0GW203XB1ZM0g> >>>>>>> Puducherry near sea coast >>>>>>> *Date*: October 15, 2019 ... *Altitude range*: about 0 - 3 m (0 - >>>>>>> 10 feet) asl >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> *Tribulus terrestris* L. >>>>>>> [image: Tribulus terrestris L.] >>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F48967519426%2Fin%2Falbum-72157711377700676%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNE6QTCsrj1iD6MKm08MzZcsiZYCzQ> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: Nerunci (Tamil: நெருஞ்சி)] >>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F48923025477%2Fin%2Falbum-72157711377700676%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGiEXTeEtdqslyfzWAyBJ1ciYeXJQ> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: Lahan gokharu (Marathi: लहान गोखरू)] >>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F48923257373%2Fin%2Falbum-72157711377700676%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEgjgU_iT7gcFC5UswxFR-FKmIQCg> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: Sanna neggilu (Kannada: ಸಣ್ಣ ನೆಗ್ಗಿಲು)] >>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F48923991447%2Fin%2Falbum-72157711377700676%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEq0VeczQXbvDp6qBz5V9cw-fdoQQ> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: Mitha gokharu (Kachchhi: મિઠા ગોખરુ)] >>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F48923991042%2Fin%2Falbum-72157711377700676%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNG8TowJjsKnckTFVeyYGNTPtaRL0g> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: Palleru (Telugu: పల్లేరు)] >>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F48923255768%2Fin%2Falbum-72157711377700676%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEeIIX8_j8BP1FXH1OYNs49QKwjLw> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC3vBM7YOXnRq%2BwnrYWio8WMXMNnNLq29o_RYW156Wwuew%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC3vBM7YOXnRq%2BwnrYWio8WMXMNnNLq29o_RYW156Wwuew%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>>>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which >>>>>>> more than 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than >>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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