You may be right Mr. Garg. I did not take the image but being a very old
tree
the diameter of the trunk seems to be more than 34cm.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 3:23 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Does not appear to be *Saraca asoca* (Roxb.) Willd.
> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/f/fabaceae/saraca/saraca-asoca>
>  as
> per details and images herein, as suggested by Rakesh ji.
> Pl. check *Saraca indica *per Flora Malesiana
> <http://portal.cybertaxonomy.org/flora-malesiana/cdm_dataportal/taxon/3406275b-6084-4846-b01b-ae4c370e9cc4>
>  (*Flowering collections of Saraca indica can be recognized by the rather
> higher number of stamens (usually 6-8) and the bracteoles which are
> erecto-patent to spreading, not clasping the pedicel, and caducous or
> persistent during anthesis*.) with differences as per illustration at Link
> <http://portal.cybertaxonomy.org/flora-malesiana/cdm_dataportal/taxon/3406275b-6084-4846-b01b-ae4c370e9cc4/images>.
> I can not check the differences as pointed out in the illustration.
>
> Descriptions are given below:
> *Saraca indica *
> *Tree to 24 m tall and 34 cm in diam*. *Leaves (l-)2-4(-7)-jugate*,
> subsessile to shortly petioled; petiole and rachis (0.5-)7-25(-35) cm long. 
> *Inflorescences
> up to 10(-22) cm wide*, *slightly pubescent or subglabrous*, *main
> branches up to c. 14 cm long, 1.5-5 mm diam*.; bracts elliptic or
> ovate-oblong, 3-8 by 1.5-4.5 mm, caducous or persistent, puberulous and/or
> minutely ciliate on the margin; *bracteoles caducous or persistent during
> anthesis, erecto-patent to spreading, *broadly elliptic or ovate, 3-8 by
> 1.5-5 mm, glabrous or minutely ciliate on the margin; pedicels (4-)
> 12-20(-35) mm, the length between bracteoles and flower 7-10(-14) mm. *Flowers
> orange yellow, to deep orange or purple, or red, articulated near the base,
> glabrous. **Stamens (5 or) 6-8(-10); filaments 10-35 mm, often puberulous
> at the basal parts*; anthers ellipsoid or oblong, c. 1 mm long;
> staminodes absent. Seeds ovoid-oblong, sometimes reniform, 4-5 by 2-2.5
> cm, and 0.6-1.2 cm thick.
> *Asia-Tropical:, Jawa (Jawa ‒ present); Laos (Laos ‒ present); Malaya
> (Peninsular Malaysia ‒ present); Sumatera (Sumatera ‒ present); Thailand
> (Thailand ‒ present) S Vietnam: present*
> *Thailand, Laos, S Vietnam; Malesia: Sumatra, Malay Peninsula, Java*
> Commonly cultivated as an ornamental
>
> *Saraca asoca*
> *Tree up to 10 m tall and 10 cm in diam*., *sometimes shrub or
> medium-sized shrub, 4.5 m tall*. *Leaves (l-)4-6-jugate*, subsessile to
> shortly petioled; (petiole and) rachis (0.5-)7-15(-30) cm long. 
> *Inflorescences
> 1.5-12(-20) cm wide*, glabrous, *main* *branches up to c. 6 cm long,
> 1.5-2 mm diam*.; bracts broadly ovate, ovate or obovate, 1-6 by 1 — 3.5(
> — 5) mm, caducous or persistent, puberulous and/or minutely ciliate on the
> margin; *bracteoles persistent during anthesis, erect, embracing the
> pedicel, never spreading more than 45° from the pedicel, *ovate,
> elliptic, or obovate, 2-7 by 1.5-4 mm, sparsely puberulous, subglabrous or
> glabrous except minutely ciliate on the margin; pedicels 8-18 mm, the
> length between bracteoles and flower (4-)7-10 mm. *Flowers obscurely or
> not articulated near the base*, subglabrous or glabrous, *orange yellow,
> when older deep orange or orange red*,* fragrant during the night*. *Stamens
> (5 — )6 — 8( — 10);* *filaments (10-) 17-25 mm, glabrous*; anthers
> ellipsoid or oblong, 1.5-2 mm long; staminodes 0-2. Seeds
> oblong-ellipsoid, sometimes slightly reniform, 2-3 by 1.25-2 cm, and 0.6-1
> cm thick.
> *Asia-Tropical:, Bangladesh (Bangladesh ‒ present); India ‒ present; Jawa
> (Jawa ‒ present); Malaya (Peninsular Malaysia ‒ present); Sri Lanka (Sri
> Lanka ‒ present); Sumatera (Sumatera ‒ present) Papua New Guinea: present
> west of the Irrawaddy R.: present*
> India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Burma (west of the Irrawaddy R.).
> Introduced and cultivated in Malesia, specimens seen from Sumatra, Malay
> Peninsula, Java, Papua New Guinea.
> The species is frequently planted near shrines, occasionally in gardens
> and villages as an ornamental. Its bark, leaves and flowers said to have
> medicinal properties .
>
> Saraca declinata
> <http://portal.cybertaxonomy.org/flora-malesiana/cdm_dataportal/taxon/e79743b7-19e5-4ed4-a7b2-6a8558f080a8>
> is mentioned in Flora Malesiana, but possibly not cultivated.
>
> I can observe filaments are puberulous as mentioned in Saraca indica (glabrous
> in Saraca asoca). So possibly it can be Saraca indica
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 at 14:48
> Subject: Re: SK 2383 13 January 2020
> To: efloraindia <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg <
> [email protected]>
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 3:02 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear members,
>>
>> Location: Bangkok, Thailand
>> Date:  07  December 2019
>> Elevation: MSL
>> Habitat: Cultivated
>>
>> Which Saraca? asoca or indica??
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>
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