Sorry for the delayed response but Kew has separate entry for both of S. personatum Hassk. Will have to discuss this once Dr. Gurcharan ji is back.
regards, Rashida. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Satish Phadke <[email protected]>wrote: > Thanks Gurcharan ji for going into such details. > We have with us very limited literature for study. > > > On 13 June 2010 07:21, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Rashida ji >> I am slightly confused. You are writing that "Dr. Almeida's flora has put >> S. colais (Buch. - Ham ex Dillw.) as the earlier name for S. personatum >> (Hassk,)" so logically former should be the correct name and not the latter >> that you have put in your subject line. According to GRIN also S. colais >> (Buch.-Ham. ex Dillw.) Mabb. is the correct name. There are two things to >> support it, firstly Mabberly has made his combination in 1978, whereas as >> Chatterjee made his in 1948, former is more recent. Secondly basionym >> Bignonia colais (1837) antedates Dipterosperma personatum Hassk. (1842), and >> hence if the two species are to be treated as synonyms, S. colais is >> preferred choice as correct name. >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Rashida Atthar <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> >>> Prashant ji, Dr. Almeida's flora has put S. colais (Buch. - Ham ex >>> Dillw.) as the earlier name for S. personatum (Hassk,) Chatterjee. The >>> caudate leaves and all morphological characteristics of flowers match very >>> well with this. >>> >>> There is one more species S. personatum ( Hassk.) Chatterjee var. >>> angustifolia (Haines) Santisukh, this one had earliar name S. colais >>> (Buch.-Ham. ex Dillw.) Mabberley var. angustifolia (Haines). This one we do >>> not see, the leaflets are acuminate not caudate, and corola is not wooly at >>> base. So what we see generally see is S. personatum (Hassk.) Chatterjee. >>> Hope this clarifies your query. >>> >>> regards, >>> Rashida. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Prashant awale <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Rashida ji, >>>> Nice set of photos. These photographs and one uploaded by me tallies >>>> well. Both has to be same sp. Do u have some comparison between S. >>>> personatum and S. colais so that ID can be resolved. >>>> regards >>>> Prashant >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Rashida Atthar < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Saw the flowering of Stereospermum personatum (Hassk.) Chatterjee at >>>>> the south end of the national park in Mumbai on 11 June, '10. >>>>> along with the capsules. >>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> Rashida. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> >>>>> . >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "efloraofindia" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "efloraofindia" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en.
