*Campanula wattiana *Nayar & Babu ?? Thank you Saroj Kasaju On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 7:53:38 PM UTC+5:45 JM Garg wrote:
> Thanks, Chadwell ji > > On 28 Feb 2017 2:52 p.m., "C CHADWELL" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I am in FULL agreement that what I currently understand to be C.cana does >> NOT tally/match with the images you have provided links to. >> >> I have high regard for the work of Professor Bouffard at Harvard but >> occasionally >> the same type of images from China of species I am familiar with from the >> borderlands >> of W.Tibet do not match well his/his team's images (this is for other >> species belonging >> to different genera). >> >> I do have an image (a colour print) which I intend to look out and scan >> in (which was >> published in a past journal of the Himalayan Plant Association) of what I >> consider is Campanula >> cana in cultivation. This I can then post. >> >> Seems to me that the genus Campanula (like so many others) is need of >> revision in the Himalaya >> (and bordering regions). >> >> IF, what I consider to be C.cana, is not, then it certainly belongs to a >> different taxon to the plant >> illustrated in the links you provided. >> >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> >> Chris Chadwell >> >> >> 81 Parlaunt Road >> SLOUGH >> SL3 8BE >> UK >> >> www.shpa.org.uk >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >> > *To:* efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> *Cc:* [email protected] >> > >> *Sent:* Monday, 27 February 2017, 11:30 >> *Subject:* Re: Campanula cana - the true species in H.P. >> > >> Thanks, Chadwell ji. >> Pl. the following links on Flora of China >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200022861> >> for Campanula cana: >> http://www.efloras.org/object_ page.aspx?object_id=104629&flo ra_id=800 >> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104629&flora_id=800> >> http://www.efloras.org/object_ page.aspx?object_id=104630&flo ra_id=800 >> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104630&flora_id=800> >> http://www.efloras.org/object_ page.aspx?object_id=104631&flo ra_id=800 >> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104631&flora_id=800> >> http://www.efloras.org/object_ page.aspx?object_id=104632&flo ra_id=800 >> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104632&flora_id=800> >> http://www.efloras.org/object_ page.aspx?object_id=104633&flo ra_id=800 >> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104633&flora_id=800>" >> >> I am unable to related your posted image with the herbarium specimen for >> which you have given the links. >> >> On 18 February 2017 at 08:51, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: *C CHADWELL* <chrischadwell261@btinternet. com> >> Date: 17 February 2017 at 23:18 >> Subject: Campanula cana - the true species in H.P. >> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >> >> >> Sorry but the entries under C.cana in eFI at present do NOT match my >> understanding of >> that species. >> >> Stewart does not include it in his Catalogue nor is it mentioned in >> Campanulaceae for Pakistan. >> >> Back in 1989 a colleague of mind found a Campanula near the bottom of the >> Rohtang Pass. He >> initially assumed it was Campanula cashmeriana but having seen this >> species in Kashmir, it was >> clear to me that they did not match. I have some images of this in >> cultivation which I plan to post >> at some point. >> >> After some time I reached the conclusion that the plant in the upper Kulu >> Valley was C.cana - even >> though it had not been recorded previously West of what was Kumaon. >> >> There has been much confusion about the smaller-flowered Campanulas in >> the Himalaya. Flora >> Simlensis included Campanula canescens (which Stewart gave as a synonym >> of C.benthamii) and >> C.cana under C.colorata - which is now a synonym of C.pallida. >> >> See: http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/ge tImage.do?imageBarcode=K000814 540 >> <http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000814540> for a >> herbarium specimen >> at Kew - although low resolution, you can clearly see differences with >> the specimens named C.cana on eFI. >> >> See: http://elmer.rbge.org.uk/bgbas e/vherb/bgbasevherb.php?cfg= >> bgbase/vherb/zoom.cfg&filename =E00275060.zip&queryRow=3 >> <http://elmer.rbge.org.uk/bgbase/vherb/bgbasevherb.php?cfg=bgbase/vherb/zoom.cfg&filename=E00275060.zip&queryRow=3> >> >> for a high resolution image which one can zoom into. >> >> However, it seems to me that not all specimens at Edinburgh match well >> with my understanding of this species - >> nor do some of the images available on the internet. >> >> All this requires further study. >> >> Hopefully the additional images I will post shall provide supporting >> evidence for my thinking. >> >> >> >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> >> Chris Chadwell >> >> >> 81 Parlaunt Road >> SLOUGH >> SL3 8BE >> UK >> >> www.shpa.org.uk >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >> world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia >> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). >> The whole world uses my Image Resource >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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