Yes, appears so. On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 at 23:02, Saroj Kumar Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote:
> *Campanula wattiana *Nayar & Babu ?? > Thank you > Saroj Kasaju > > On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 7:53:38 PM UTC+5:45 JM Garg wrote: > >> Thanks, Chadwell ji >> >> On 28 Feb 2017 2:52 p.m., "C CHADWELL" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I am in FULL agreement that what I currently understand to be C.cana does >>> NOT tally/match with the images you have provided links to. >>> >>> I have high regard for the work of Professor Bouffard at Harvard but >>> occasionally >>> the same type of images from China of species I am familiar with from >>> the borderlands >>> of W.Tibet do not match well his/his team's images (this is for other >>> species belonging >>> to different genera). >>> >>> I do have an image (a colour print) which I intend to look out and scan >>> in (which was >>> published in a past journal of the Himalayan Plant Association) of what >>> I consider is Campanula >>> cana in cultivation. This I can then post. >>> >>> Seems to me that the genus Campanula (like so many others) is need of >>> revision in the Himalaya >>> (and bordering regions). >>> >>> IF, what I consider to be C.cana, is not, then it certainly belongs to a >>> different taxon to the plant >>> illustrated in the links you provided. >>> >>> >>> Best Wishes, >>> >>> >>> Chris Chadwell >>> >>> >>> 81 Parlaunt Road >>> SLOUGH >>> SL3 8BE >>> UK >>> >>> www.shpa.org.uk >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>> >> *To:* efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>> *Cc:* [email protected] >>> >> >>> *Sent:* Monday, 27 February 2017, 11:30 >>> *Subject:* Re: Campanula cana - the true species in H.P. >>> >> >>> Thanks, Chadwell ji. >>> Pl. the following links on Flora of China >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200022861> >>> for Campanula cana: >>> http://www.efloras.org/object_ page.aspx?object_id=104629&flo ra_id=800 >>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104629&flora_id=800> >>> http://www.efloras.org/object_ page.aspx?object_id=104630&flo ra_id=800 >>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104630&flora_id=800> >>> http://www.efloras.org/object_ page.aspx?object_id=104631&flo ra_id=800 >>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104631&flora_id=800> >>> http://www.efloras.org/object_ page.aspx?object_id=104632&flo ra_id=800 >>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104632&flora_id=800> >>> http://www.efloras.org/object_ page.aspx?object_id=104633&flo ra_id=800 >>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104633&flora_id=800>" >>> >>> I am unable to related your posted image with the herbarium specimen for >>> which you have given the links. >>> >>> On 18 February 2017 at 08:51, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji. >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: *C CHADWELL* <chrischadwell261@btinternet. com> >>> Date: 17 February 2017 at 23:18 >>> Subject: Campanula cana - the true species in H.P. >>> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Sorry but the entries under C.cana in eFI at present do NOT match my >>> understanding of >>> that species. >>> >>> Stewart does not include it in his Catalogue nor is it mentioned in >>> Campanulaceae for Pakistan. >>> >>> Back in 1989 a colleague of mind found a Campanula near the bottom of >>> the Rohtang Pass. He >>> initially assumed it was Campanula cashmeriana but having seen this >>> species in Kashmir, it was >>> clear to me that they did not match. I have some images of this in >>> cultivation which I plan to post >>> at some point. >>> >>> After some time I reached the conclusion that the plant in the upper >>> Kulu Valley was C.cana - even >>> though it had not been recorded previously West of what was Kumaon. >>> >>> There has been much confusion about the smaller-flowered Campanulas in >>> the Himalaya. Flora >>> Simlensis included Campanula canescens (which Stewart gave as a synonym >>> of C.benthamii) and >>> C.cana under C.colorata - which is now a synonym of C.pallida. >>> >>> See: http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/ge tImage.do?imageBarcode=K000814 540 >>> <http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000814540> for >>> a herbarium specimen >>> at Kew - although low resolution, you can clearly see differences with >>> the specimens named C.cana on eFI. >>> >>> See: http://elmer.rbge.org.uk/bgbas e/vherb/bgbasevherb.php?cfg= >>> bgbase/vherb/zoom.cfg&filename =E00275060.zip&queryRow=3 >>> <http://elmer.rbge.org.uk/bgbase/vherb/bgbasevherb.php?cfg=bgbase/vherb/zoom.cfg&filename=E00275060.zip&queryRow=3> >>> >>> for a high resolution image which one can zoom into. >>> >>> However, it seems to me that not all specimens at Edinburgh match well >>> with my understanding of this species - >>> nor do some of the images available on the internet. >>> >>> All this requires further study. >>> >>> Hopefully the additional images I will post shall provide supporting >>> evidence for my thinking. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Best Wishes, >>> >>> >>> Chris Chadwell >>> >>> >>> 81 Parlaunt Road >>> SLOUGH >>> SL3 8BE >>> UK >>> >>> www.shpa.org.uk >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >>> world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia >>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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