Thank you Mr. Garg ! Saroj Kasaju
On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 5:22 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, appears so. > > On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 at 23:02, Saroj Kumar Kasaju <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> *Campanula wattiana *Nayar & Babu ?? >> Thank you >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 7:53:38 PM UTC+5:45 JM Garg wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Chadwell ji >>> >>> On 28 Feb 2017 2:52 p.m., "C CHADWELL" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I am in FULL agreement that what I currently understand to be C.cana >>>> does >>>> NOT tally/match with the images you have provided links to. >>>> >>>> I have high regard for the work of Professor Bouffard at Harvard but >>>> occasionally >>>> the same type of images from China of species I am familiar with from >>>> the borderlands >>>> of W.Tibet do not match well his/his team's images (this is for other >>>> species belonging >>>> to different genera). >>>> >>>> I do have an image (a colour print) which I intend to look out and scan >>>> in (which was >>>> published in a past journal of the Himalayan Plant Association) of what >>>> I consider is Campanula >>>> cana in cultivation. This I can then post. >>>> >>>> Seems to me that the genus Campanula (like so many others) is need of >>>> revision in the Himalaya >>>> (and bordering regions). >>>> >>>> IF, what I consider to be C.cana, is not, then it certainly belongs to >>>> a different taxon to the plant >>>> illustrated in the links you provided. >>>> >>>> >>>> Best Wishes, >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Chadwell >>>> >>>> >>>> 81 Parlaunt Road >>>> SLOUGH >>>> SL3 8BE >>>> UK >>>> >>>> www.shpa.org.uk >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>> >>> *To:* efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>> *Cc:* [email protected] >>>> >>> >>>> *Sent:* Monday, 27 February 2017, 11:30 >>>> *Subject:* Re: Campanula cana - the true species in H.P. >>>> >>> >>>> Thanks, Chadwell ji. >>>> Pl. the following links on Flora of China >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200022861> >>>> for Campanula cana: >>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_ page.aspx?object_id=104629&flo ra_id=800 >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104629&flora_id=800> >>>> >>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_ page.aspx?object_id=104630&flo ra_id=800 >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104630&flora_id=800> >>>> >>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_ page.aspx?object_id=104631&flo ra_id=800 >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104631&flora_id=800> >>>> >>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_ page.aspx?object_id=104632&flo ra_id=800 >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104632&flora_id=800> >>>> >>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_ page.aspx?object_id=104633&flo ra_id=800 >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104633&flora_id=800> >>>> " >>>> >>>> I am unable to related your posted image with the herbarium specimen >>>> for which you have given the links. >>>> >>>> On 18 February 2017 at 08:51, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji. >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: *C CHADWELL* <chrischadwell261@btinternet. com> >>>> Date: 17 February 2017 at 23:18 >>>> Subject: Campanula cana - the true species in H.P. >>>> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sorry but the entries under C.cana in eFI at present do NOT match my >>>> understanding of >>>> that species. >>>> >>>> Stewart does not include it in his Catalogue nor is it mentioned in >>>> Campanulaceae for Pakistan. >>>> >>>> Back in 1989 a colleague of mind found a Campanula near the bottom of >>>> the Rohtang Pass. He >>>> initially assumed it was Campanula cashmeriana but having seen this >>>> species in Kashmir, it was >>>> clear to me that they did not match. I have some images of this in >>>> cultivation which I plan to post >>>> at some point. >>>> >>>> After some time I reached the conclusion that the plant in the upper >>>> Kulu Valley was C.cana - even >>>> though it had not been recorded previously West of what was Kumaon. >>>> >>>> There has been much confusion about the smaller-flowered Campanulas in >>>> the Himalaya. Flora >>>> Simlensis included Campanula canescens (which Stewart gave as a synonym >>>> of C.benthamii) and >>>> C.cana under C.colorata - which is now a synonym of C.pallida. >>>> >>>> See: http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/ge tImage.do?imageBarcode=K000814 540 >>>> <http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000814540> for >>>> a herbarium specimen >>>> at Kew - although low resolution, you can clearly see differences with >>>> the specimens named C.cana on eFI. >>>> >>>> See: http://elmer.rbge.org.uk/bgbas e/vherb/bgbasevherb.php?cfg= >>>> bgbase/vherb/zoom.cfg&filename =E00275060.zip&queryRow=3 >>>> <http://elmer.rbge.org.uk/bgbase/vherb/bgbasevherb.php?cfg=bgbase/vherb/zoom.cfg&filename=E00275060.zip&queryRow=3> >>>> >>>> for a high resolution image which one can zoom into. >>>> >>>> However, it seems to me that not all specimens at Edinburgh match well >>>> with my understanding of this species - >>>> nor do some of the images available on the internet. >>>> >>>> All this requires further study. >>>> >>>> Hopefully the additional images I will post shall provide supporting >>>> evidence for my thinking. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best Wishes, >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Chadwell >>>> >>>> >>>> 81 Parlaunt Road >>>> SLOUGH >>>> SL3 8BE >>>> UK >>>> >>>> www.shpa.org.uk >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>> the world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or >>>> Efloraofindia >>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>>> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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