At first, I did think that too, Sir. Then I thought, "if this is *U. hamiltonii* then what is the other one at - https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/zWXWqY6TV24/m/XGFigk_f65cJ?";
Whatever little part of the leaf seen in the submitted picture, it seems to be *obovate*. Can this monocarps be called having tomentose epicarp? At most, I think those are pubescence. Is there much difference between this submitted picture and the first one at "inaturalist (they too always update those ids, like us)" - https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/960017-Uvaria-concava/browse_photos? Thank you. Best regards, Surajit Koley On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 at 17:46, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Can it be Uvaria hamiltonii as per GBIF > <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=3154362> - specimens > one > <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1441303797685UYjl6u0kNCPO198B> > , two > <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.1770631%2Fformat%2Flarge> > and three > <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1443509695466Hqigth1MvsLVpYTw> > and four > <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1441303774929ntdVD65xxh7w3O1L> > ? > To me appears some possibility. > > On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 at 17:42, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I think looks different from Uvaria concava as per >> ATRP >> <http://www.canbr.gov.au/cpbr/cd-keys/RFK7/key/RFK7/Media/Html/entities/Uvaria_concava.htm> >> iNaturalist >> <https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/960017-Uvaria-concava/browse_photos> >> GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/species/3154255> >> >> Also looks different from *Uvaria argentea* Bl. var. *bracteata *as per >> GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=3156920>- >> specimen >> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Flive.staticflickr.com%2F65535%2F48262354742_3ff3cc3104_o_d.jpg> >> >> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 at 19:33, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> The problem here is we do ot have entire leaf picture for character >>> evaluation and other details like fruit size or view of the monocarps in >>> different angles. >>> >>> .I have two suggestions here - >>> >>> 1. *Uvaria argentea* Bl. var. *bracteata* : It is *U. bracteata* Roxb. >>> of FLORA INDICA and Flora of British India. In Roxburgh's own words,* >>> "berries ..... when ripe of a rich yellow."* But the type species, >>> i.e., *U. argentea var. argentea, which is restricted to peninsular >>> Malaysia *features red or purple monocarps >>> 2. *Uvaria concava* Teijsm. & Binn. : It is *U. narum* var. >>> *macrophylla* & *U. lurida* of Flora of British India. *monocarps >>> green turning orange or yellow at maturity..... young stipe and monocarp >>> with sparse indument, later subglabrous.* >>> >>> *So, I think the species in this thread is U. concava.* >>> >>> *Endnote : there is ample scope for mis-identification, because not >>> much, or even adequate data is available from the submitted picture in this >>> thread. * >>> >>> Thank you. >>> Best regards, >>> Surajit Koley >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 21:44, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Please, pardon me, Sawmliana ji, for mis-spelling your name. >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> Best regards, >>>> Surajit Koley >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 21:39, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sir, to my understanding, typical *Uvaria concava* fruit would look >>>>> like the one we have in our database - >>>>> https://08511630493324166816.googlegroups.com/attach/bcba2a177696c320/DSC_0248-800.jpg?part=0.2&view=1&vt=ANaJVrGkQ4adOr3feT3MsZLoO_s5KR7Ai5HSCcveleC3RRP198esRVtL_2-H4DmCS7XLvrGJrPzwdbpS905ySpCroRHtpaliAyJGXGug5ng2B3wyJiGYplI >>>>> >>>>> @ >>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/annonaceae/uvaria/uvaria-concava >>>>> >>>>> Whereas >>>>> >>>>> the fruit (monocarps) in this discussion is neither glabrous, nor have >>>>> small apicules. *So, I have much doubt.* >>>>> >>>>> Only favourable points are the *orange colour* of the monocarps and >>>>> the "variation in floral and fruit characters" mentioned in the said >>>>> 'paper'. >>>>> >>>>> *I will check the entire annonaceae and let you know.* >>>>> >>>>> Meanwhile, it would be very helpful if Swamliana ji could provide us >>>>> his opinion and/or more detail. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 14:57, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Surajit ji. >>>>>> Pl. see if you can nail it down, from the paper I have sent you. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 17 Apr 2021 at 21:42, surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Please check if it can be *Uvaria concava* of the* "Uvaria Paper" >>>>>>> previously mentioned*, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 17:13, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 at 11:25, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, Sawmliana ji, >>>>>>>>> Could you get it identified ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>> From: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 at 16:51 >>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:183661] ID of climber >>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear sirs, >>>>>>>>> I am attaching herewith a photo of climber for your >>>>>>>>> id. The fruits are edible. Place of collection : Tuirial, Aizawl >>>>>>>>> dist., >>>>>>>>> Mizoram. Date : Unknown. Latitude : ca. 200 - 900 m. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> M Sawm Liana >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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