Nalini ji
This is why I love this group. There are people with little or no botanical
knowledge, but their knowledge about plants is amazing. Your knowledge about
plants, I suppose is second to none, and your enthusiasm unparalleled. That
is the beauty of the nature. You can know it if you have desire to do so. I
remember, when I was struggling to differentiate various species of
Brassica, my mother showed me few days old young plants with barely three or
four leaves and could tell me difference between what we call mustards and
coles. I have learnt many things about plants from her, and imagine she
never went to school. Here on our group also there are several nonbotanists,
Garg ji, Dinesh ji, Tabish ji, Yazdy ji, you, to name a few (others pl.
excuse me for not naming them) who are both the engine and the oil for this
group. We are lucky to be the part of this group. Perhaps my interest in
plants (nature) would not have been renewed, had I not joined this group. I
would have remained at armchair botanist.
This group has also changed working style of we botanists (at least
me). Earlier if we got a new plant, we would collect our books, get hold of
microscope, needle, brush and blade, and sit for hours to identify the
unknown plant, and may still be sometimes unsuccessful, and then send the
plant or photograph to an expert or a mailing group (TAXACOM was my
favourite then). Now I do the reverse. Whenever, I get a new plant, I
immediately send the photograph to our group, and ninety per cent of the
times or more I get identification (or important clues) within minutes. Only
if I don't get identification here, I sit with the plant and books/internet,
or enlarge photograph on my computer and attempt its identification.
The group has also changed my working philosophy. We were told by our
elders/teachers that you should tell the identification only if you are 100
% sure. If we follow this policy, not 10 % of plants would get identified.
We here have invented a new strategy (and I advocate it strongly), just
throw a wild guess (don't hesitate about it), it will initiate rigorous
search by other members to reach the correct identity. And this I think is
the trademark of this group. And this we do exchanging light hearted
comments to keep the spirit on. There was a lot of knowledge and goodwill
involved about the LATIN NAMKARAN CEREMONY OF DINESH JI YESTERDAY.
Let the spirit continue, and as they say "IS GROUP KO KISSI KI NAZAR NA LAG
JAI"
--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:09 AM, nabha meghani <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thank you Prof. Singh ji for clearing the doubts.
> I have really no idea about the different varieties and species etc. etc. I
> can differenciate between sunflower and oxalis, there ends my knowledge. I
> just enjoy looking at the flowers and the insects. So I am really glad that
> the exact identification is done by experts in this group
> Thanks again to you.
> Tanay ji,
> I really admire your enthusiasm, I thought you would be packing your
> suitcase, but you are IDing Flowers. Great!
> Bon Voyage, Gute Reise, Have a nice journey.
>
> Nalini
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
> *To:* nabha meghani <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* tanay bose <[email protected]> ; arjunan<[email protected]>;
> mani
> nair <[email protected]> ; Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> ;
> efloraofindia <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 01, 2010 1:43 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:43012] Re: please id this medicinal plant
>
> Nalini ji and Tanay
> Perhaps this will resolve the identity of plant posted by Naliniji, and
> possibly also Arjun ji
>
> P. crispum: Leaves small, usually less than 2.5 cm long, margin toothed and
> incised but not divided, margin crisped; flowers 2-2.5 cm long, upper larger
> petals sometimes emarginate.
>
> P. graveolens: Leaves large, usually longer than 5 cm, long petiolate,
> divided almost to the base into 5-7 lobes, lobes again divided into about 6
> mm broad segments dentate along margin; flowers 1.5 cm long.
>
>
> On that basis Naliniji's plant is clearly Pelargonium graveolens, and so is
> that of Arjun ji. There is some mix up of names. P. crispum is lemon
> geranium (that must have led Tanay to give this name) or Crisped-leaf
> geranium and P. graveolens the rose geranium or rose-scent geranium. But
> that in no way should affect the identification. Photograph of the plant is
> here with us.
>
> Here are some links:
>
> http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelargonia_pachnąca<http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelargonia_pachn%C4%85ca>
>
>
> http://toptropicals.com/pics/garden/m1/raznozvet2/Pelargonium_graveolens9308.jpg
>
>
> http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/43430/
>
> http://sc.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pelargonium_crispum1.jpg
>
> But then there is a lot of confusion and mix up there on the internet, the
> images having been mixed up. That must also be reason for mix up of the
> names. But my description is based on famous book "Manual of Cultivated
> Plants" by L. H. Bailey
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 4:08 PM, nabha meghani <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Thank you Tanay ji,
>> i am not aware of the exact scientific name of my plant as I have no idea
>> of botany. But when i search for Zitronengeranie under which the plant is
>> known here, i get *Pelargonium graveolens.* So i leave it to the experts
>> to identify my plant as well as that of Arjun ji.
>> I hope you agree with me?
>> Regards
>> Nalini
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> *From:* tanay bose <[email protected]>
>> *To:* Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
>> *Cc:* nabha meghani <[email protected]> ;
>> arjunan<[email protected]>; mani
>> nair <[email protected]> ; Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> ;
>> efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 01, 2010 5:10 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:43012] Re: please id this medicinal plant
>>
>>
>> Dear Nalini Ji,
>>
>> I am not aware of German name as I have no idea regarding the language.
>> But the only the thing i can assume is the scientific name, which is ....
>>
>> *Pelargonium crispum* (Berg.) L'Her. *Engl.
>> *gooseberry geranium, crisped-leaf geranium, lemon geranium, lemon-scented
>> geranium, peach geranium.
>>
>> Tanay
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Nalini ji for sharing the photographs.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>> Retired Associate Professor
>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 1:55 AM, nabha meghani <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hallo all,
>>>> here are some fotos of Zitronengeranie ( german name. I don't know
>>>> engl.name. Sorry). Leaves and flowers taken in April 2008. I hope in
>>>> this summer, it shall get some more Flowers.
>>>> Regards
>>>> Nalini
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tanay Bose
>> +91(033) 25550676 (Resi)
>> 9830439691(Mobile)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>
