Garg ji, if you read BSI Flora of India, C. tibeticum is excluded species as no specimens from India are available Please also note POWO regards C. argyracanthum DC as accepted name and C. tibeticum Kit. as its synonym Both FBI and BSI Flora of India record Heads 3.5 to 6 cm in C. verutum (C. involucratus of FBI), less than 2,5 cm in C. argyracanthum. BSI Flora mentions heads pale yellow to white in C. argyracanthum, whereas in all Bhutan images, images on Flowers of India and elsewhere heads are are purple in C. verutum.
On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 10:11:41 PM UTC+5:30 Gurcharan Singh wrote: > C. verutum I will upload separately > > On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 8:44:35 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: > >> Pl. consider Cirsium verutum >> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/15/cirsium-verutum/> as per images >> and details herein. >> Flora of Bhutan gives the following keys >> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/4HvHdjTQILI>: >> 8. Wide or narrow, pale, scarious, lacerate appendage on margins of >> outer and middle phyllaries near base of spine . … *C. wallichii *(specimen >> at POWO <http://www.kew.org/herbcatimg/359206.jpg>)- 2300-2400 mtr. >> + Phyllaries uniformly tapered, margin sometimes denticulate but not >> scarious- dilated near the base of the spine . . . .. 9 >> 9. Leaves moderately spiny (spines 5mm); phyllaries purplish, outer >> usually ending in spine 2–4mm . .. .. *C. tibeticum* (syn. of *Cirsium >> argyracanthum* DC. as per POWO >> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:195029-1>) >> (specimen at POWO <http://www.kew.org/herbcatimg/684831.jpg>)- 1450 to >> 2750 mtr. >> + Leaves very spiny (spines 5-12mm); phyllaries greenish, outer with >> spines 4-8mm . . . .. *C. verutum *(specimen at GBIF (one >> <https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simple.html?src=//api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhm.ac.uk%2Fservices%2Fmedia-store%2Fasset%2Fa427e2f6aae50e9a78509e46298f36e031289138%2Fcontents%2Fpreview> >> , two >> <https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simple.html?src=//api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhm.ac.uk%2Fservices%2Fmedia-store%2Fasset%2Fdf66eec6a84b7d1dcb6c41f52f988e17450efd90%2Fcontents%2Fpreview>))- >> >> 1500 t0 2100 mtr. >> >> On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 at 18:56, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> *Cirsium argyracanthum* DC. >>> incl. C. wallichii var. wightii Kook.f. >>> The heads like C. wallichii are mostly less than 2.5 cm across, but >>> heads are crowded in clusters and pale yellow to white, involucre bracts >>> not dilated, outer ending in long rigid spine, innermost linear long >>> pointed, leaves glabrous on both surfaces. >>> Photographed from along road between Maa Bhangayani Temple Sirmour >>> towards Nohradhar, alt. 2200 m, Himachal Pradesh, 25-5-2015. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAHiXKpX%3DnjP9%2BkB6BgVK0bPLwkTNH5rGjjin9H4J0c1y%3D5p0-w%40mail.gmail.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAHiXKpX%3DnjP9%2BkB6BgVK0bPLwkTNH5rGjjin9H4J0c1y%3D5p0-w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/98b18036-c1b4-4a76-878f-57ba3ac828d1n%40googlegroups.com.
