I feel FOI images <http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Common%20Thistle.html> also look different and match with specimens of *C. argyracanthum* (POWO <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:195029-1>)- one <http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/detailsQuery.do?barcode=K001118167>, two <http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/detailsQuery.do?barcode=K000250088>.
Going by *C. verutum* (POWO <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:196173-1>)- one <http://www.kew.org/herbcatimg/358304.jpg> (C. involucratus of FBI) and two <http://www.kew.org/herbcatimg/358305.jpg> (C. involucratus of FBI), the following may be the real C.verutum: Cirsium sp?? — enroute Dhel at GHNP – PKA30 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/D3CMasVd7g8> On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 at 10:55, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Really confusing Garg, it seems we hardly have real specimens of C. > verutum in out database, even this upload by D S Rawat under C. verutum is > similar to mine > ASTERACEAE Fortnight Part 2-Discoid heads: Cirsium verutum from > Uttarakhand_DSR_9 (google.com) > <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/Crn_udYVy3g> > > Real C. verutum seems to be at Flowers of India. > > > > > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > > > On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 9:49 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> As there are contradictions between BSI Flora of India, Flora of China >> and Flora of Bhutan as pointed out by you above, let us go by the >> specimens. >> Going by specimens of *C. verutum* (POWO >> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:196173-1>)- >> one <http://www.kew.org/herbcatimg/358304.jpg> (C. involucratus of FBI) >> and two <http://www.kew.org/herbcatimg/358305.jpg> (C. involucratus of >> FBI), I feel your post look different and matches with specimens of *C. >> argyracanthum* (POWO >> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:195029-1>)- >> one <http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/detailsQuery.do?barcode=K001118167>, two >> <http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/detailsQuery.do?barcode=K000250088>. >> >> >> On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 at 21:20, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Cirsium verutum (D Don) Spreng >>> Syn: C. involucratum DC,, Nom. Illeg.; Cnicus involucratus var. horrida >>> Hook.f. >>> The species differs from C. wallichii in green involucre bracts ending >>> in spines, outer spines longer, inner shorter, inner bracts >>> not broadened at tip and without scarious margins, and heads in >>> clusters. There is confusion in size of heads FBI and BSI Flora of India >>> indicate larger heads 3.5-6 cm in diam., Flora of China 3-3.5 cm and Flora >>> of Bhutan 1-1.5 cm. Heads are predominantly purple in colour. >>> Photographed from Ranikhet, Uttarakhand, 14-4-2012. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAHiXKpUqsg3-kXH9%2BxLDCGm_WYc5Wp5n1qor30msEoMMH565Kw%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAHiXKpUqsg3-kXH9%2BxLDCGm_WYc5Wp5n1qor30msEoMMH565Kw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> > -- With regards, J.M.Garg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFC1P3%3D2LFO8Sw4DhVbdXxwnL9AD3VjYPPzE_2rmXE84xw%40mail.gmail.com.
