Leaves seem to be much more spiny and rigid, cottony underside missing even in this population uploaded by Prashant ji, as compared to POWO.
Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 12:25 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > I feel FOI images > <http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Common%20Thistle.html> also look > different and match with specimens of *C. argyracanthum* (POWO > <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:195029-1>)- > one <http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/detailsQuery.do?barcode=K001118167>, two > <http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/detailsQuery.do?barcode=K000250088>. > > Going by *C. verutum* (POWO > <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:196173-1>)- > one <http://www.kew.org/herbcatimg/358304.jpg> (C. involucratus of FBI) > and two <http://www.kew.org/herbcatimg/358305.jpg> (C. involucratus of > FBI), the following may be the real C.verutum: > Cirsium sp?? — enroute Dhel at GHNP – PKA30 > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/D3CMasVd7g8> > > On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 at 10:55, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Really confusing Garg, it seems we hardly have real specimens of C. >> verutum in out database, even this upload by D S Rawat under C. verutum is >> similar to mine >> ASTERACEAE Fortnight Part 2-Discoid heads: Cirsium verutum from >> Uttarakhand_DSR_9 (google.com) >> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/Crn_udYVy3g> >> >> Real C. verutum seems to be at Flowers of India. >> >> >> >> >> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 9:49 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> As there are contradictions between BSI Flora of India, Flora of China >>> and Flora of Bhutan as pointed out by you above, let us go by the >>> specimens. >>> Going by specimens of *C. verutum* (POWO >>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:196173-1>)- >>> one <http://www.kew.org/herbcatimg/358304.jpg> (C. involucratus of FBI) >>> and two <http://www.kew.org/herbcatimg/358305.jpg> (C. involucratus of >>> FBI), I feel your post look different and matches with specimens of *C. >>> argyracanthum* (POWO >>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:195029-1>)- >>> one <http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/detailsQuery.do?barcode=K001118167>, >>> two <http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/detailsQuery.do?barcode=K000250088>. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 at 21:20, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Cirsium verutum (D Don) Spreng >>>> Syn: C. involucratum DC,, Nom. Illeg.; Cnicus involucratus var. horrida >>>> Hook.f. >>>> The species differs from C. wallichii in green involucre bracts ending >>>> in spines, outer spines longer, inner shorter, inner bracts >>>> not broadened at tip and without scarious margins, and heads in >>>> clusters. There is confusion in size of heads FBI and BSI Flora of India >>>> indicate larger heads 3.5-6 cm in diam., Flora of China 3-3.5 cm and Flora >>>> of Bhutan 1-1.5 cm. Heads are predominantly purple in colour. >>>> Photographed from Ranikhet, Uttarakhand, 14-4-2012. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAHiXKpUqsg3-kXH9%2BxLDCGm_WYc5Wp5n1qor30msEoMMH565Kw%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAHiXKpUqsg3-kXH9%2BxLDCGm_WYc5Wp5n1qor30msEoMMH565Kw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >> > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAHiXKpVPeGXJO-zSeC1YEaw%3DfJLn50fvALXTfiwTghMFA1N3GA%40mail.gmail.com.
