I think Cirsium wallichii
<https://efloraofindia.com/2013/06/14/cirsium-wallichii/> as per
discussions at Confusion between Circium argyracanthum and C. verutum
<https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/biO4-3IHxZ4/m/K27YzYbpDwAJ>

On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 at 19:09, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

> Garg ji
> I am reuploading my collection of Cirsium, that will help in solving
> confusion. Please wait.
>
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 10:11:10 AM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote:
>
>> That is what I have suggested.
>>
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>>
>> On Fri, 31 Dec, 2021, 9:40 am Gurcharan Singh, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> C. verutum is another possibility.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 5:39:54 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote:
>>>
>>>> To me your mentioned spine size relative to the leaves, seems to be OK
>>>> in the images as per description in Flora of China
>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200023700>
>>>>  below:
>>>> Middle cauline leaves sessile, oblanceolate, 15-20 × 3-9 cm,
>>>> pinnatipartite, semi amplexicaul; segments ca. 10 pairs, ovate to elliptic,
>>>> with unequal triangular teeth with 1-2 mm lateral spinules and a 3-5 mm
>>>> apical spine, basal teeth sometimes spiniform. Upper cauline leaves similar
>>>> but ovate to narrowly elliptic, segments or teeth with a 5-10 mm apical
>>>> spine.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 at 22:14, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Garg ji, C. verutum has spines of involucre bracts not longer than 8
>>>>> mm, and spines on leaves not longer than 12 mm according to Flora of
>>>>> Bhutan.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 12:50:44 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think *Cirsium verutum* (D.Don) Spreng.
>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/carduoideae/cirsium/cirsium-verutum>
>>>>>>  as
>>>>>> per images and keys herein.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>> From: Prashant Awale <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 at 00:34
>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:157390] Asteraceae Week (Part II - Discoid
>>>>>> heads) :: Cirsium falconeri at Auli :: PKA17: :
>>>>>> To: indiantreepix <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Friends,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  *Cirsium falconeri* (Family: Asteraceae) at Auli.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Prashant
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