I am still with C. falconeri

On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 10:32:24 AM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote:

> I think Cirsium wallichii 
> <https://efloraofindia.com/2013/06/14/cirsium-wallichii/> as per 
> discussions at Confusion between Circium argyracanthum and C. verutum 
> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/biO4-3IHxZ4/m/K27YzYbpDwAJ>
>
> On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 at 19:09, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Garg ji
>> I am reuploading my collection of Cirsium, that will help in solving 
>> confusion. Please wait. 
>>
>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 10:11:10 AM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote:
>>
>>> That is what I have suggested.
>>>
>>> --
>>> With regards,
>>> J. M. Garg
>>>
>>> On Fri, 31 Dec, 2021, 9:40 am Gurcharan Singh, <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> C. verutum is another possibility.
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 5:39:54 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> To me your mentioned spine size relative to the leaves, seems to be OK 
>>>>> in the images as per description in Flora of China 
>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200023700>
>>>>>  below:
>>>>> Middle cauline leaves sessile, oblanceolate, 15-20 × 3-9 cm, 
>>>>> pinnatipartite, semi amplexicaul; segments ca. 10 pairs, ovate to 
>>>>> elliptic, 
>>>>> with unequal triangular teeth with 1-2 mm lateral spinules and a 3-5 mm 
>>>>> apical spine, basal teeth sometimes spiniform. Upper cauline leaves 
>>>>> similar 
>>>>> but ovate to narrowly elliptic, segments or teeth with a 5-10 mm apical 
>>>>> spine. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 at 22:14, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Garg ji, C. verutum has spines of involucre bracts not longer than 8 
>>>>>> mm, and spines on leaves not longer than 12 mm according to Flora of 
>>>>>> Bhutan. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 12:50:44 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think *Cirsium verutum* (D.Don) Spreng. 
>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/carduoideae/cirsium/cirsium-verutum>
>>>>>>>  as 
>>>>>>> per images and keys herein.  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>> From: Prashant Awale <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 at 00:34
>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:157390] Asteraceae Week (Part II - Discoid 
>>>>>>> heads) :: Cirsium falconeri at Auli :: PKA17: :
>>>>>>> To: indiantreepix <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Friends,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  *Cirsium falconeri* (Family: Asteraceae) at Auli.  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Prashant  
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