Pl. also see GBIF specimen- one
<https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simple.html?src=//api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm34ab4cae5-1062-421c-a2d1-c9563688e6cf>
and two
<https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simple.html?src=//api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fquod.lib.umich.edu%2Fcgi%2Fi%2Fimage%2Fapi%2Fimage%2Fherb00ic%3A1538204%3AMICH-V-1538204%2Ffull%2Fres%3A0%2F0%2Fnative.jpg>,
matching with it.

On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 at 12:03, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Cirsium wallichii
> <https://efloraofindia.com/2013/06/14/cirsium-wallichii/> is highly
> variable as per discussions at Confusion between Circium argyracanthum
> and C. verutum
> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/biO4-3IHxZ4/m/K27YzYbpDwAJ>
>
> On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 at 11:32, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I am still with C. falconeri
>>
>> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 10:32:24 AM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote:
>>
>>> I think Cirsium wallichii
>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2013/06/14/cirsium-wallichii/> as per
>>> discussions at Confusion between Circium argyracanthum and C. verutum
>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/biO4-3IHxZ4/m/K27YzYbpDwAJ>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 at 19:09, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Garg ji
>>>> I am reuploading my collection of Cirsium, that will help in solving
>>>> confusion. Please wait.
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 10:11:10 AM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That is what I have suggested.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> With regards,
>>>>> J. M. Garg
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 31 Dec, 2021, 9:40 am Gurcharan Singh, <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> C. verutum is another possibility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 5:39:54 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To me your mentioned spine size relative to the leaves, seems to be
>>>>>>> OK in the images as per description in Flora of China
>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200023700>
>>>>>>>  below:
>>>>>>> Middle cauline leaves sessile, oblanceolate, 15-20 × 3-9 cm,
>>>>>>> pinnatipartite, semi amplexicaul; segments ca. 10 pairs, ovate to 
>>>>>>> elliptic,
>>>>>>> with unequal triangular teeth with 1-2 mm lateral spinules and a 3-5 mm
>>>>>>> apical spine, basal teeth sometimes spiniform. Upper cauline leaves 
>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>> but ovate to narrowly elliptic, segments or teeth with a 5-10 mm apical
>>>>>>> spine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 at 22:14, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Garg ji, C. verutum has spines of involucre bracts not longer than
>>>>>>>> 8 mm, and spines on leaves not longer than 12 mm according to Flora of
>>>>>>>> Bhutan.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 12:50:44 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think *Cirsium verutum* (D.Don) Spreng.
>>>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/carduoideae/cirsium/cirsium-verutum>
>>>>>>>>>  as
>>>>>>>>> per images and keys herein.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>>>> From: Prashant Awale <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 at 00:34
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:157390] Asteraceae Week (Part II - Discoid
>>>>>>>>> heads) :: Cirsium falconeri at Auli :: PKA17: :
>>>>>>>>> To: indiantreepix <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  *Cirsium falconeri* (Family: Asteraceae) at Auli.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> Prashant
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