OK Mr. Garg !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 10:11 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks, Saroj ji.
> These records are much older (30 to 40 years old) compared to those of
> POWO, CoL, eFloras.
> Even now BSI Flora of India offers only a checklist (I think of 1993).
> Synonyms at Sibbaldia cuneata
> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/speciesDesc_PCL.action?species_id=20528>
>  and Sibbaldia parviflora
> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/speciesDesc_PCL.action?species_id=20543>
>  are
> in conflict with those in eFloras and POWO and CoL.
>
> On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 at 21:36, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Some more links :
>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjOhc3T48_1AhXiIqYKHceoBwgQFnoECAIQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ias.ac.in%2Farticle%2Ffulltext%2Fplnt%2F090%2F03%2F0253-0272&usg=AOvVaw3eYxIJZtAS3M2WDK8hF521
>>
>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjOhc3T48_1AhXiIqYKHceoBwgQFnoECBoQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Findiabiodiversity.org%2Fspecies%2Fshow%2F245574&usg=AOvVaw0qVXl_kQWCqVX2TnpIizvy
>>
>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjOhc3T48_1AhXiIqYKHceoBwgQFnoECAQQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fefloraindia.bsi.gov.in%2FeFlora%2FspeciesList_PCL.action%3FresultType%3DgenusWise%26parent_Id%3D20322%26parent_Name%3Dsibbaldia&usg=AOvVaw1gTsavCaMoVVt7t4AztGaP
>>
>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjOhc3T48_1AhXiIqYKHceoBwgQFnoECCMQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fplants.jstor.org%2Fstable%2Fhistory%2F10.5555%2Fal.ap.specimen.k000467309&usg=AOvVaw3mcZm1spKecSEY5vvhuBLl
>>
>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjOhc3T48_1AhXiIqYKHceoBwgQFnoECCIQAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fflora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in%2Fpan%2Fherbsheet.php%3Fid%3D1325%26cat%3D10&usg=AOvVaw333VStgMX5fEzaqZr6CvqZ
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 9:39 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with Dinesh Ji  and that is same will all sites.
>>> They miss a lot !
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 9:37 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello garg ji,
>>>> Distribution at POWO, many times, is not as per what we observe.
>>>> Regards.
>>>> Dinesh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 9:04 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Please have a look at he GBIF link :
>>>>> https://www.gbif.org/species/3025060 !
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 9:01 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Neither POWO nor CoL gives distribution of Sibbaldia parviflora or S
>>>>>> . procumbens in India as per
>>>>>> https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:741483-1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.catalogueoflife.org/annual-checklist/2019/details/species/id/3e0799e2a5ad2c0e808ae421547fb7b3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:741489-1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.catalogueoflife.org/annual-checklist/2019/details/species/id/61f95f067ee23d05df4aba57b91535c5
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It appears there is something more complex in this.
>>>>>> In view, I am keeping observations from Valley of Flowers at
>>>>>> *Sibbaldia cuneata* Hornem. ex Kuntze
>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/03/29/sibbaldia-cuneata/> only, for
>>>>>> the time being. I also do not find any substantial difference from other
>>>>>> observations from Himachal and J & K.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Sept 2015 at 11:23, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The small alpine Potentilla described as Potentilla sibbaldii
>>>>>>> Haller.f. in Flora of British India has gone either as Sibbaldia 
>>>>>>> procumbens
>>>>>>> var. procumbens (eFlora Pakistan; eFlora China) or S. cuneata Hornem ex
>>>>>>> Kuntze. The Plant list treats P. sibbaldii described in FBI (synonym of
>>>>>>> Sibbaldia parviflora Willd.) as distinct from P. sibbaldii of Haller.f.
>>>>>>> (synonym of S. procumbens)
>>>>>>> We thus have three plants to account for, luckily two are described
>>>>>>> in eFlora of China.
>>>>>>> Sibbaldia cuneata: Stems erect or ascending, epicalyx equalling
>>>>>>> calyx; petals equalling or longer than calyx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sibbaldia procumbens var. procumbens: Stems prostrate or ascending;
>>>>>>> epicalyx much shorter than calyx; petals shorter than sepals.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sibbaldia parviflora: Much like S. procumbens but densely downy and
>>>>>>> appearing Grey
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://encyclopaedia.alpinegardensociety.net/plants/Sibbaldia/parviflora
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are two plants uploaded in our database. One by me as S.
>>>>>>> procumbens var. procumbens. This should be S. cuneata
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Sibbaldia$20procumbens/indiantreepix/_b03-1mHgCI/YEjGF5NNGAAJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The second by Dinesh ji uploaded as Sibbaldia cuneata should be S.
>>>>>>> parviflora
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Sibbaldia$20procumbens/indiantreepix/_b03-1mHgCI/YEjGF5NNGAAJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Prashant ji has perhaps correctly identified his plant as S.
>>>>>>> parviflora
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Sibbaldia$20parviflora/indiantreepix/5WZGkGM5IG0/LKL1NxdUy2YJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your comments please
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
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