Respected sir . The flowers that I have come across is pubescent on the upper edge of the lip. The extent of pubescence is differing across the flowers . Regards, Madhusudhan Khanal
On Wed, 3 Aug, 2022, 1:05 pm Pankaj Kumar, <[email protected]> wrote: > Here is the image of the original drawing attached > It obviously doesn't match with either of the images. > > > On Wed, 3 Aug 2022 at 15:32, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: > >> In worst case plants of both look like T. formosanum actually! >> >> On Wed, 3 Aug 2022 at 15:22, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hello all >>> I checked some more references including pictures and sketches of plants >>> from Taiwan. I also looked into Khyanjeet's article and I agree that his >>> plant is Thrixspermum formosanum. >>> I dont have very high resolution images. But I do not see hairs on the >>> outer surface of labellum in Khyanjeet's images. But I see hairs on >>> Khanal's images. >>> Can you guys confirm if its true. I think at this moment Khyanjeets >>> plant matches more with formosanum and not with pygmaeum. I have also >>> looked into flora of Taiwan. The illustrations of pygmaeum in flora of >>> taiwan doesnt match with either of the members. However, lets say what if >>> the illustration of at least pygmaeum is wrong in the book!! >>> I have also looked into specimens from Vietnam. The plants do match well >>> with Khyanjeet's images. And there are no hairs on outer surface of >>> labellum. >>> >>> On Wed, 3 Aug 2022 at 14:47, Madhusudhan Khanal < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Attached more pictures of the plant with flowers. The flowers are exact >>>> similar with the plants you posted. I also have gone through your >>>> publication and the characters matches perfectly with it. Kindly have a >>>> look at it once. Thank you. >>>> Regards, >>>> Madhusudhan Khanal >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 9:35 PM Khyanjeet Gogoi < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Your plant is not Thrixspermum formosanum, formosanum and pygmaeum >>>>> both are different species, I do not agree with BSI. Please go through my >>>>> Thrixspermum formosanum Photograph...... >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 3:15 PM Madhusudhan Khanal < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Now I understand. Thank you sir for the clarification. >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Madhusudhan >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 1 Aug, 2022, 11:33 am Pankaj Kumar, <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Respected sir >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, the name Thrixspermum formosanum is written under Thrixspermum >>>>>>> pygmaeum in the BSI book. But no, it doesnt mean they are synonym >>>>>>> because >>>>>>> there is something else written in front of the text. >>>>>>> What it means is, "the plant mentioned by Khyanjeet Gogoi and >>>>>>> Rajendra Yonzone in The MIOS Journal is not T. formosanum but T. >>>>>>> pygmaeum. >>>>>>> "auct. non." means this name doesnt belong to the original author, >>>>>>> that was Schlechter, who synonymised the name Sarcochilus formosanus of >>>>>>> Hayata under Thrixspermum as Thrixspermum formosanum. >>>>>>> In simple words, BSI is saying Khyanjeet and Yonzone were wrong in >>>>>>> identifying their plant. >>>>>>> So currently these two names, Thrixspermum formosanum and T. >>>>>>> pygmaeum are considered distinct and both are accepted names. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Aug 2022 at 13:21, Madhusudhan Khanal < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kindly check the mention of T.formosanum below T.pygmeaum in >>>>>>>> Orchids of India Pictorial guide. >>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 30 Jul, 2022, 1:35 pm Madhusudhan Khanal, < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Respected sir. I just want to confirm whether T.pygmeaum and >>>>>>>>> T.formosanum are different species or not. In orchids of India >>>>>>>>> (Pictorial >>>>>>>>> guide) below Thrixspermum pygmeaum in the synonym section there is >>>>>>>>> mention >>>>>>>>> of T.formosanum. I don't have the book with me right now but I can >>>>>>>>> show you >>>>>>>>> the picture of the page on which it is mentioned on Monday. Sharing >>>>>>>>> you the >>>>>>>>> dissected pics of the flower shortly. Thank you. >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Madhusudhan Khanal >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 25 Jul, 2022, 11:53 am Pankaj Kumar, < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear sir >>>>>>>>>> I do not understand your question. >>>>>>>>>> 1. What is the id of this orchid in the picture? - I need to show >>>>>>>>>> me a dissected flower to confirm. >>>>>>>>>> 2. Thrixspermum formosanum is synonym of T. pygmaeum according to >>>>>>>>>> the BSI's book? - I have the book right in front of me and this book >>>>>>>>>> doesn't claim that they are synonym, please check again >>>>>>>>>> Khayanjit already wrote in his manuscript >>>>>>>>>> "Note: Thrixspermum formosanum (Hayata) Schltr. is similar to >>>>>>>>>> Thrixspermum >>>>>>>>>> pygmaeum (King & Pantl.) Holt. Gogoi et al., 2012 described this >>>>>>>>>> species as Thrixspermum pygmaeum but differs by having abaxially >>>>>>>>>> purple spot-ted leaves and a white, with brownish stripes, >>>>>>>>>> lipped flower." >>>>>>>>>> I have added Khyanjeet in the email. >>>>>>>>>> Thanks and regards >>>>>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 at 18:22, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Saroj ji, for the validation. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 at 20:15, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thrixspermum formosanum ! >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 4:04 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Madhusudhan ji >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Madhusudhan Khanal < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2022 at 15:47 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:428512] Requesting I'd confirmation of >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thrixspermum formosanum (Orchidaceae) >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Respected experts. The flower of this specimen resambles T. >>>>>>>>>>>>> formosanum . The specimen was reported as first from India by >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gogoi and >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yonzone (2015) and was collected from Assam. In Orchids of India >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Pictorial >>>>>>>>>>>>> guide) the species T. formosanum have been treated as a synonym >>>>>>>>>>>>> of T. >>>>>>>>>>>>> pygmeaum but on checking the status of T. formosanum it looks >>>>>>>>>>>>> like a >>>>>>>>>>>>> different species. 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