Thanks, Tabish ji On Fri, 4 Aug 2023 at 12:35, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
> See the attached 2017 paper. I think the two distinct species are *Urtica > parviflora* (Syn: Urtica ardens) and *Urtica himalayensis. *The plant by > Gurcharan ji in this post fits Urtica parviflora , and the one with more > rounded leaves and prominently double-toothed margins should be *Urtica > himalayensis. *Compare with the images in the paper. POWO still treats U. > ardens as an accepted name and U. parviflora as synonym based on the Flora > of Pakistan, which is quite outdated. I think one should follow the names > in this 2017 paper. > Regards > Tabish > > On Sunday, February 23, 2014 at 2:10:11 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote: > >> Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >> Date: 9 February 2014 14:14 >> Subject: [efloraofindia:181333] A relook at our specimens of Urtica >> parviflora >> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> >> >> Dear friends >> Visiting different areas in Western Himalayas I have often been confused >> with specimens with connate stipules mostly reported as U. parviflora Roxb >> (leaving aside U. hyperborea depicted on Flowers of India courtesy Prashant >> ji, a species growing in Ladakh and other places above altitudes of 3000 >> m), with some specimens very sparsely hairy with slender stinging hairs and >> other very densely hairy with robust stinging hairs. The confusion was >> confounded by treatment in eFlora of Pakistan and Enumeration of Flowering >> Plants of Nepal which consider U. parviflora as simple synonym of U. ardens >> Link. >> Perhaps this confusion of mine was solved by treatment in eFlora of >> China which considers U. parviflora Roxb. and U. ardens link as distinct >> species and not synonyms, and both occurring in N W. India, Nepal and >> Sikkim. The two species are easily differentiated as under: >> >> *U. ardens:* Stipules rounded at tip; leaf blade ovate to lanceolate, >> surface wrinkled especially when dry; margin sharply doubly serrulate; stem >> with numerous stinging hairs. >> >> *U. parviflora:* Stipules slightly cleft or retuse at tip; leaf blade >> lanceolate or narrowly ovate; nearly smooth especially when dry, margin >> crenate or inconspicuously double-denticulate or serrulate; stem with few >> stinging hairs. >> >> With this background my specimen at Flowers of India as U. ardens seems >> to be perfectly cited along with synonyms >> >> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Himalayan%20Nettle.html >> >> as also following on our website (although synonym U. parviflora Roxb. in >> wrongly placed). >> >> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/evkPChbsAQ8 >> >> My mail discussing U. parviflora from Manali obviously is U. ardens >> >> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/indiantreepix/XAWrIeSq1K0 >> >> Same is true of following uploaded by Balkar ji from Chakrata which is U. >> ardens >> >> >> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Urtica$20parviflora/indiantreepix/zBG8pY7gf1o/Vf9PkoUqomUJ >> >> Same is case with U. parviflora uploaded by Prashant ji from Joshimath. >> It is also U. ardens. >> >> >> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/RI3gIPTLJ3A >> >> The question is what about real U. parviflora Roxb., it seems not >> presently represented in our database but after scrutiny of my photographs >> I could dig out the following as representing U. parviflora. Slightly >> parted stipules, sparsely hairy softer hairs and narrow leaves are easily >> seen. >> >> Your valued comments please >> >> >> >> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "efloraofindia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* >> & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged >> alphabetically & place-wise): >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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