Great contribution Dinesh ji

On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 9:35:51 AM UTC+5:30 Mahadeswara wrote:

>
>
> Dear Dinesh ji,
> Thanks for your detailed info on ಬಿಳಿ ಹಲಸು bili halasu.  Excellent 
> analysis.  Thanks again for enlightening me on the subject.
>  Regards,
> M.Swamy
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 10:01 AM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks very much, dear Mahadeswara ji, for validating the Kannada names.
>> I agree that  *ಬಲ್ಪಾಲೆ balpaale* is more appropriate than *ಬಲ್ಬಲೆ 
>> balpale* . Will make the change shortly.
>>
>> About *ಬಿಳಿ ಹಲಸು bili halasu* literally meaning *white jack* ... this 
>> name is more in context of a trade of wood / timber.
>> *Artocarpus hirsutus* = hebbalasu ಹೆಬ್ಬಲಸು = hebba + halasu = wild jack 
>> tree
>> Here is one link: Forests of Karnataka - A Panaromic View 
>> <https://books.google.co.in/books?id=F0mQDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT45&lpg=PT45&dq=bili+hebbalasu&source=bl&ots=ytqEofY-wE&sig=ACfU3U3fJUu9HB15SgW9thGMqaFz311wDg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjvlNLqtP6AAxWB1zgGHYliDf44FBDoAXoECAQQAw#v=onepage&q=bili%20hebbalasu&f=false>
>>  
>> ... where we find *Lophopetalum wightianum* being given a name as *ಬಿಳಿ 
>> ಹೆಬ್ಬಲಸು bili hebbalasu*.
>> It is something to do with similarity in nature of wood.
>>
>> Regards. 
>> Dinesh
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 5:33 PM M Swamy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  Dear Dinesh ji,
>>> This is regarding the kannada name *ಬಲ್ಬಲೆ balpale.   * In my view   
>>> *ಬಲ್ಪಾಲೆ 
>>> balpaale* ( as mentioned by  ... Subrahmanya, Prasad K - Exploration 
>>> and elucidation of traditional medicinal plants of erstwhile Tulunadu and 
>>> <http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/41951/10/10_chapter%204.pdf>
>>>  surrounding area of Kerala and Karnataka 
>>> <http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/41951/10/10_chapter%204.pdf>
>>>  - 
>>> Shodhganga  )   is more appropriate than  *'**ಬಲ್ಬಲೆ balpale'.*  *Paale 
>>> or Paala * refers to  *Writhtia tinctoria* in Kannada.  * 'Paale or 
>>> pala'  also written as 'pala or pale'  *refers to the white milky 
>>> exude.  Even ಬಿಳಿ ಹಲಸು bili halasu  may not be appropriate as this tree 
>>> or fruit  is in no way related to  Halasu  (Jackfruit tree) .  
>>> Nevertheless, the choice is yours to retain, add or delete the names 
>>> suggested by me.
>>> Thanks & Regards,
>>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 1:27 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> *Lophopetalum wightianum* Arn. 
>>>> [image: Lophopetalum wightianum Arn.] 
>>>>
>>>> ¿ *lo-foh-PET-al-um* ? -- Greek: *lophos* (crest), and *petalon* 
>>>> (petal) ... Dave's Botanary <http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/>
>>>> ¿ *wight-ee-AY-num* ? -- named for Robert Wight, Scottish surgeon & 
>>>> botanist in India ... Dave's Botanary 
>>>> <http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/search.php?search_text=wightii> 
>>>>
>>>> *commonly known as*: Wight's crest-petal • *Coorgi*: ಪಾಲ್ಮನಿ paalmani 
>>>> • *Hindi*: बनाती banati • *Kannada*: ಬಲ್ಬಲೆ balpale, ಬನಾಟೆ banaate, 
>>>> ಬೌರಾಲಪಾಲೆ bauralapaale, ಬಿಳಿ ಹಲಸು bili halasu, ಪಾಲ್ಮನಿ paalmani • 
>>>> *Konkani*: बोलपली bolpali • *Malayalam*: വെമ്പാല vembala, വെണ്‍കടവം 
>>>> venkatavam, വെങ്കൊട്ട venkotta • *Marathi*: बलफळे balphale, बनाती 
>>>> banati • *Nepali*: बलपले balapale • *Tamil*: காருக்கா karukka, வெள்ள 
>>>> பலா vella pala, வெள்ளபோலம் vellapolam, வெண்கடவன் venkatavan, வென்கோட்டா 
>>>> venkotta, வெண்குதம் venkutam • *Tulu*: ಬೊಲ್ಪಾಲೆ bolpaale 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *botanical names*: *Lophopetalum wightianum* Arn. ... *heterotypic 
>>>> synonyms*: *Lophopetalum fimbriatum* Wight ... and more at POWO 
>>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/> 
>>>> Bibliography / etymology
>>>> Links listed as references in the notes below, may not remain valid 
>>>> permanently. Portals / websites have a tendency to re-organize / revise 
>>>> their content, leading to change in URLs of pages in their site. Some 
>>>> sites 
>>>> may even close down at their own will. 
>>>> ~~~~~ ENGLISH ~~~~~
>>>> *Wight's crest-petal*
>>>>
>>>>    - for want of name, name coined by Flowers of India 
>>>>    
>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Wight%27s%20Crest-Petal.html>
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~ COORGI (Kodava takk)~~~~~
>>>> *ಪಾಲ್ಮನಿ paalmani*
>>>>
>>>>    - *The Useful Plants of India* by NISCAIR
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~ HINDI ~~~~~
>>>> *बनाती banati*
>>>>
>>>>    - भारतवाणी 
>>>>    
>>>> <https://bharatavani.in/bharatavani//hindi/dictionarysurf/?pageno=877&letter=1&did=228&language=English>
>>>>  
>>>>    - भारतीय भाषाओं द्वारा ज्ञान
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~ KANNADA ~~~~~
>>>> *ಬಲ್ಬಲೆ balpale*
>>>>
>>>>    - BIOTIK 
>>>>    <http://www.biotik.org/india/species/l/lophwigh/lophwigh_ka.html> 
>>>>    (Biodiversity Informatics and co-operation in Taxonomy for Interactive 
>>>>    shared Knowledge base)
>>>>    - or *ಬಲ್ಪಾಲೆ balpaale* ... Subrahmanya, Prasad K - Exploration and 
>>>>    elucidation of traditional medicinal plants of erstwhile Tulunadu and 
>>>>    surrounding area of Kerala and Karnataka 
>>>>    
>>>> <http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/41951/10/10_chapter%204.pdf>
>>>>  
>>>>    - Shodhganga
>>>>    - or *ಬೆಲ್ಪಾಲೆ belpaale* ... Alar - an authoritative 
>>>>    Kannada-English dictionary corpus 
>>>>    
>>>> <https://alar.ink/dictionary/kannada/english/%E0%B2%AC%E0%B3%86%E0%B2%B2%E0%B3%8D%E0%B2%AA%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%B2%E0%B3%86>
>>>>  
>>>>    created by V. Krishna
>>>>
>>>> *ಬನಾಟೆ banaate*
>>>>
>>>>    - Alar - an authoritative Kannada-English dictionary corpus 
>>>>    
>>>> <https://alar.ink/dictionary/kannada/english/%E0%B2%AC%E0%B2%A8%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%9F%E0%B3%86>
>>>>  
>>>>    created by V. Krishna
>>>>    - Karnataka Biodiversity Board, 2019. FLORA OF KARNATAKA, A 
>>>>    Checklist, Volume – 2: Gymnosperms and Angiosperms. 
>>>>    
>>>> <https://kbb.karnataka.gov.in/storage/pdf-files/Flora%20of%20Karnataka/Part%201.pdf>
>>>>  
>>>>    1 - 1002 (Published by Karnataka Biodiversity Board)
>>>>
>>>> *ಬೌರಾಲಪಾಲೆ bauralapaale*
>>>>
>>>>    - BIOTIK 
>>>>    <http://www.biotik.org/india/species/l/lophwigh/lophwigh_ka.html> 
>>>>    (Biodiversity Informatics and co-operation in Taxonomy for Interactive 
>>>>    shared Knowledge base)
>>>>    - or *ಬೋರಲುಪಾಲೆ boralupaale* ... Alar - an authoritative 
>>>>    Kannada-English dictionary corpus 
>>>>    
>>>> <https://alar.ink/dictionary/kannada/english/%E0%B2%AC%E0%B3%8B%E0%B2%B0%E0%B2%B2%E0%B3%81%E0%B2%AA%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%B2%E0%B3%86>
>>>>  
>>>>    created by V. Krishna
>>>>    - or *ಬೋರಲುಪಾಲೆ boralupaale* ... Karnataka Biodiversity Board, 
>>>>    2019. FLORA OF KARNATAKA, A Checklist, Volume – 2: Gymnosperms and 
>>>>    Angiosperms. 
>>>>    
>>>> <https://kbb.karnataka.gov.in/storage/pdf-files/Flora%20of%20Karnataka/Part%201.pdf>
>>>>  
>>>>    1 - 1002 (Published by Karnataka Biodiversity Board)
>>>>
>>>> *ಬಿಳಿ ಹಲಸು bili halasu*
>>>>
>>>>    - Subrahmanya, Prasad K - Exploration and elucidation of 
>>>>    traditional medicinal plants of erstwhile Tulunadu and surrounding area 
>>>> of 
>>>>    Kerala and Karnataka 
>>>>    
>>>> <http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/41951/10/10_chapter%204.pdf>
>>>>  
>>>>    - Shodhganga
>>>>
>>>> *ಪಾಲ್ಮನಿ paalmani*
>>>>
>>>>    - BIOTIK 
>>>>    <http://www.biotik.org/india/species/l/lophwigh/lophwigh_ka.html> 
>>>>    (Biodiversity Informatics and co-operation in Taxonomy for Interactive 
>>>>    shared Knowledge base)
>>>>    - Alar - an authoritative Kannada-English dictionary corpus 
>>>>    
>>>> <https://alar.ink/dictionary/kannada/english/%E0%B2%AA%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%B2%E0%B3%8D%E0%B2%AE%E0%B2%A8%E0%B2%BF>
>>>>  
>>>>    created by V. Krishna
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~ KONKANI ~~~~~
>>>> *बोलपली bolpali*
>>>>
>>>>    - Enumeration of plants from Gomantak India 
>>>>    
>>>> <http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/jspui/bitstream/10603/153789/10/09_chapter%205.pdf>
>>>>  
>>>>    with a note on botanical excursions to the Castlerock area by V D Vartak
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~ MALAYALAM ~~~~~
>>>> *വെമ്പാല vembala, വെണ്‍കടവം venkatavam, വെങ്കൊട്ട venkotta*
>>>>
>>>>    - BIOTIK 
>>>>    <http://www.biotik.org/india/species/l/lophwigh/lophwigh_ma.html> 
>>>>    (Biodiversity Informatics and co-operation in Taxonomy for Interactive 
>>>>    shared Knowledge base)
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~ MARATHI ~~~~~
>>>> *बलफळे balphale, बनाती banati*
>>>>
>>>>    - मराठी विश्वकोश <https://vishwakosh.marathi.gov.in/25088/>
>>>>    - or *बल्पले balpale* ... *Further Flowers of Sahyadri* by Shrikant 
>>>>    Ingalhalikar, the second among the three field guides to identify 
>>>> plants of 
>>>>    northern Western Ghats of India, based on flowers
>>>>    - or *बालपाले balpale* ... महाराष्ट्रातील वनस्पतीशास्त्र आणि वनसंपदा 
>>>>    
>>>> <https://gazetteers.maharashtra.gov.in/cultural.maharashtra.gov.in/english/gazetteer/Vansampada/index1.html>
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~ NEPALI ~~~~~
>>>> *बलपले balapale*
>>>>
>>>>    - Many thanks to Saroj Kumar Kasaju for help with this name ... 
>>>>    efloraofindia 
>>>>    <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/JY9dXOAKlSc/m/nC2XHaaWAAAJ>
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~ TAMIL ~~~~~
>>>> *காருக்கா karukka, வெள்ள பலா vella pala, வெள்ளபோலம் vellapolam, 
>>>> வெண்கடவன் venkatavan, வென்கோட்டா venkotta, வெண்குதம் venkutam*
>>>>
>>>>    - BIOTIK 
>>>>    <http://www.biotik.org/india/species/l/lophwigh/lophwigh_ta.html> 
>>>>    (Biodiversity Informatics and co-operation in Taxonomy for Interactive 
>>>>    shared Knowledge base)
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~ TULU ~~~~~
>>>> *ಬೊಲ್ಪಾಲೆ bolpaale*
>>>>
>>>>    - Subrahmanya, Prasad K - Exploration and elucidation of 
>>>>    traditional medicinal plants of erstwhile Tulunadu and surrounding area 
>>>> of 
>>>>    Kerala and Karnataka 
>>>>    
>>>> <http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/41951/10/10_chapter%204.pdf>
>>>>  
>>>>    - Shodhganga
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~ DISTRIBUTION in INDIA ~~~~~
>>>> ***Arunachal Pradesh, ***Assam, Goa, Karnataka, Kerala, Maharashtra, 
>>>> ***Meghalaya, Sikkim, Tamil Nadu, Uttar Pradesh 
>>>>
>>>>    - Enumeration of plants from Gomantak India 
>>>>    
>>>> <http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/jspui/bitstream/10603/153789/10/09_chapter%205.pdf>
>>>>  
>>>>    with a note on botanical excursions to the Castlerock area by V D Vartak
>>>>    - Karnataka Biodiversity Board, 2019. FLORA OF KARNATAKA, A 
>>>>    Checklist, Volume – 2: Gymnosperms and Angiosperms. 
>>>>    
>>>> <https://kbb.karnataka.gov.in/storage/pdf-files/Flora%20of%20Karnataka/Part%201.pdf>
>>>>  
>>>>    1 - 1002 (Published by Karnataka Biodiversity Board)
>>>>    - for *Lophopetalum fimbriatum* Wight ... Botanical Survey of India 
>>>>    - INDIAN WOODS - their identification, properties and uses 
>>>>    
>>>> <https://bsi.gov.in/uploads/userfiles/file/Rare%20Books/Indian%20Woods%20Vol.%202.pdf>
>>>>  
>>>>    - VOLUME II
>>>>    - Hassler, Michael (2004 - 2023): World Plants. Synonymic Checklist 
>>>>    and Distribution of the World Flora. 
>>>>    
>>>> <https://www.worldplants.de/world-plants-complete-list/complete-plant-list>
>>>>  
>>>>    Version 16.3; last update Aug. 16th, 2023. Last accessed 24/08/2023.
>>>>
>>>> *** no given name / no name found, in the regional language(s) of the 
>>>> state 
>>>> ~~~~~ x ~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Names compiled / updated at 
>>>> https://dineshvalke.blogspot.com/2023/08/lophopetalum-wightianum-arn.html
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>> Dinesh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 1:23 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Names compiled / updated at 
>>>>> https://dineshvalke.blogspot.com/2023/08/lophopetalum-wightianum-arn.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, 30 December 2012 at 19:47:34 UTC+5:30 Ushadi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>> what an unusual petal form, 
>>>>>> and color
>>>>>>
>>>>>> nice close up
>>>>>>
>>>>>> usha di 
>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Satish Phadke <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gorgeous Catch Dinesh Ji
>>>>>>> I can see the typical structure of Celastraceae flowers 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dr Satish Phadke
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Many many thanks Giby ji. Have corrected my notes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Such mistakes may occur in future ! Why ? because this happens when 
>>>>>>>> I have only the Malayalam word available, without the English 
>>>>>>>> transcribed 
>>>>>>>> word(s). Then I depend on Google's transliteration to fetch the 
>>>>>>>> English 
>>>>>>>> (which does not take account of native accent).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Giby ji and dear friends, whenever you come across such errors, do 
>>>>>>>> please point them to me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Giby Kuriakose <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is Venkotta and not venkeatta 
>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/malayalam/venkeatta-venkeatta>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> Giby
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Usha di
>>>>>> ===========
>>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the 
>>>>> Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group.
>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit 
>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/iR-u7lBDYe0/unsubscribe
>>>>> .
>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to 
>>>>> [email protected].
>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit 
>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/270b15e3-f50d-46b9-8fa1-d27724addf75n%40googlegroups.com
>>>>>  
>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/270b15e3-f50d-46b9-8fa1-d27724addf75n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"eFloraofIndia" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to [email protected].
To view this discussion on the web, visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/42967da2-5885-47d9-afec-6658fad03248n%40googlegroups.com.

Reply via email to