Yes, sure, Garg ji. His views will definitely help us. Regards. Dinesh On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 3:26 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
> It will be better to have views of Sabu ji, in this matter. > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2024 at 10:35 > Subject: [efloraofindia:466070] Zingiber :: cernuum VS nimmonii > To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > > > Dear friends, > I want to discuss about two species of *Zingiber*, namely: *cernuum* and > *nimmonii*. They are treated as separate identities by some and > synonymous by few. I see them as separate taxons, and I am using the > Hooker's Journal of Botany and Kew Garden Miscellany > <https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/787002#page/350/mode/1up> as > reference, to put forth my thoughts. > Some taxonomical portals consider these two taxa as separate: > • Plants of the World Online <https://powo.science.kew.org/> (POWO), > retrieved 11 May 2024 > • Global Biodiversity Information Facility <https://www.gbif.org/> (GBIF) > [11 May 2024] > ------------------------------ > Description of Z. *Nimmonii*, Dalz. extracted from Hooker's Journal > [image: Description of Zingiber nimmonii (Graham) Dalzell, in Latin] > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/53712417902/> > Above Latin text translated to English ↓ > 1. Z. *Nimmonii*, Dalz.; the stem reddish-green, glabrous, with > lanceolate leaves, acuminate at the base with a very short slender petiole, > bright green above, pale and cobwebby below, the ovate ascending spike, the > top scarcely exserted from the ground, with inner reddish-striated bracts, > linear-oblong to lanceolate, acute, glabrous, bifid, the outer corolla with > yellowish-red fringe, the 3-lobed yellow lip, with the intermediate lobe > ovate-rounded, scarcely emarginate; the capsules, the size of a dove’s egg. > Growing in Konkan, and also in the yoke of Sahyadris; flowering July. > Dalzell continues ↓ > Although it is a maxim among naturalists that differences of colour > without difference of form cannot make a species, I find in making out the > differential characters of this genus great help in recording colour as > well as form, owing to the very great uniformity among the species, both as > regards habit and structure, even of their minutest parts. The present > species is by far the commonest of the three here described, and it is the > only one of which I am at all in doubt as to its being an undescribed > species, as it agrees well with the description of *Z. panduratum* of > Roxb. Flor. Ind., which however was not found in the Indian peninsula. The > species which I have now attempted to characterize is mentioned in Graham's > catalogue of Bombay plants, under the name of *Alpinia Nimmonii*, but at > that time the flowers were unknown, which is not much to be wondered at, as > they appear (in common with those of the other species) at a time when the > whole country is deluged with heavy and continued rains. > ------------------------------ > Description of Z. *cernuum* extracted from Hooker's Journal > [image: Description of Zingiber cernuum Dalzell, in Latin] > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/53713540813/> > Above Latin text translated to English ↓ > 2. Z. *cernuum*; the stem glabrous, bright green, with leaves narrowly > elliptic, acuminate, glabrous on both sides, the spikes ovate, obtuse, very > shortly pedunculate, the top scarcely exserted from the ground, with inner > yellow-green bracts, ovate or oblong, shortly obtuse, glabrous, shortly > trifid, the outer corolla with pale brown fringe, the 3-lobed lip, with the > intermediate white and pink ovate lobe, deeply bifid, with lateral lobes > painted yellow and pink. > Growing in Ram Ghat; flowering July. > Dalzell continues ↓ > This is the smallest of the three species here described. The apex of the > leafy stem is always somewhat curved; beside this mark, it may be readily > distinguished by its bright green stems, never having a tint of any other > colour. The habit and form are entirely those of the preceding, but the > colouring of the lip is the handsomest of any species I have seen. Fruit > yellowish-white, smooth; seeds (unripe) red, striated, with membranous > aril. > ------------------------------ > Illustrations of the discussed species > [image: Slide1 stem and flower of Zingiber cernuum Dalzell] > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/53714638322/> > [image: Slide2 fruit and seed of Zingiber cernuum Dalzell] > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/53715982000/> > [image: Slide3 dissected flower parts of Zingiber nimmonii (Graham) > Dalzell] <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/53715548761/> > [image: Slide4 stem of Zingiber nimmonii (Graham) Dalzell] > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/53714638292/> > [image: Slide5 flower of cernuum and nimmonii] > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/53715887299/> > [image: Slide6 stem of cernuum and nimmonii] > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/53715887294/> > [image: Slide7 stem of cernuum and nimmonii] > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/53714638332/> > ------------------------------ > I see the discussed species as separate, based on the illustrations shown > above. The photos belong to respective owners, and have their own > copyrights. Annotations on the illustrations are purely mine. The plants in > the photos agree very well to the descriptions found in the Hooker's Journal > of Botany and Kew Garden Miscellany > <https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/787002#page/350/mode/1up>. > Distribution of the discussed species > • *Zingiber cernuum* Dalzell > India (Goa, Karnataka, Maharashtra) > • *Zingiber nimmonii* (Graham) Dalzell > India (Karnataka, Kerala, Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu); Myanmar (Mandalay) > ... Hassler, Michael (1994 - 2023): World Plants. Synonymic Checklist and > Distribution of the World Flora. > <https://www.worldplants.de/world-plants-complete-list/complete-plant-list> > Version 19.2; last update April 17th, 2024. - www.worldplants.de. Last > accessed 11/05/2024. > ~~~~~ Last updated: 10:17 15-06-2024 ~~~~~ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "eFloraofIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC1P1Qs6r1DsPj1BUmV5%3Dx5RCR3Cjg6%3DRr%3DcKdhgKbWg3w%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC1P1Qs6r1DsPj1BUmV5%3Dx5RCR3Cjg6%3DRr%3DcKdhgKbWg3w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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