Many thanks Saroj Kasaju for interesting link. Leaves and flowers look exactly like my pics. I am thrilled to have taken pics of the berries from white to ripe and red. Hardly any pics on www of Ilex delaveyi. Maybe one day it will be propagated for gardeners/plant lovers to grow. Kind wishes from bonnie Scotland. UK.
On Friday 18 October 2024 at 19:10:55 UTC+1 Saroj Kasaju wrote: > That is great news. https://ppbc.iplant.cn/sp/21617 > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 11:34 PM 'PlantaholicSheila' via eFloraofIndia < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Mystery solved! >> After all this time I now know this is Ilex delaveyi. >> The RHS came up trumps with very full answer. >> Cannot copy and paste full reply so have added a photo of their most >> helpful message. >> [image: ILEX DELAVEYI 18-10-2024 18-25-12.JPG] >> >> On Sunday 8 September 2024 at 17:17:15 UTC+1 J.M. Garg wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Sheila ji. >>> >>> On Sun, 8 Sept 2024 at 17:57, 'PlantaholicSheila' via eFloraofIndia < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you for looking. >>>> Yes Ilex is a possibility as it has tiny flowers with 4 petals. >>>> However, I have never seen any Holly where the berries that start >>>> white, then go blush pink and finally red. >>>> Not any Ilex with berries that are not round. >>>> Below are the latest and last pics I took on 22nd August. >>>> Very few berries remained. >>>> The shrub was again flowering. >>>> >>>> On Sunday 8 September 2024 at 13:14:15 UTC+1 navendu page wrote: >>>> >>>>> Perhaps it could be a species of Ilex! >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 7 Sept 2024 at 20:51, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: Sat, 7 Sept 2024 at 20:39 >>>>>> Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:467885] Mystery shrub seen in Scotland >>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>> Cc: <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2024 at 15:37 >>>>>> Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:467885] Mystery shrub seen in Scotland >>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>> Acronychia. ?? >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>> Sir, Many thanks for looking and your suggestion of Acronychia. >>>>>> This a new plant for me so have tried to do my research. >>>>>> Sadly I do not think it is a match. >>>>>> Acronychia leaves are opposite. Mystery shrub has alternate leaves >>>>>> .... see image below. >>>>>> Acronychia the flowers are bisexual, with four sepals, four petals >>>>>> and eight stamens. >>>>>> Mystery plant only has 4 stamen. >>>>>> I think there may be 2 shrubs one was female, the 2nd next to it >>>>>> sadly the flowers were over brown and wilted...maybe the male. >>>>>> Acronychia seeds are black. mystery plant seeds were white...see >>>>>> image below >>>>>> >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronychia - from Sheila ji >>>>>> Thanks, Sheila ji. >>>>>> >>>>>> Pl. try Gaultheria and Gymnosporia- from me >>>>>> Thank you for looking sir and for your two suggestions. >>>>>> I do not think that it can be Gaultheria...as I do not believe that >>>>>> the flowers are right for Ericaceae. >>>>>> Quote wiki.... >>>>>> *"Gaultheria* is a genus of about 283 species of shrubs >>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrub> in the family Ericaceae >>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ericaceae>. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will check out Gymnosporia - from Sheila ji >>>>>> Pl. try Ilex like >>>>>> >>>>>> https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:A.aquif-flor_fem._-_7.jpg- >>>>>> from me >>>>>> I have added 2 more pics to show the seed capsule. >>>>>> I have never seen any Ilex sp...common name Holly with berries in 4 >>>>>> parts. >>>>>> Flowers are nothing like the Ilex aquifolium link you added. >>>>>> Sorry. >>>>>> Thank you for looking. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sheila >>>>>> https://www.gbif.org/species/5414222 >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>> Thank you for the images of Ilex aquilifolium...a very common tree in >>>>>> UK. >>>>>> I know it well. >>>>>> Nothing is a match..not the flowers, leaves or berries. >>>>>> >>>>>> The seed capsules are very very different to most plants they are not >>>>>> round but are in 4 segments. Rather like Euonymus. - from Sheila ji >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2024 at 15:32 >>>>>> Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:467885] Mystery shrub seen in Scotland >>>>>> To: itpmods <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Any idea about the family or genus? >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>> From: 'PlantaholicSheila' via eFloraofIndia < >>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2024 at 14:13 >>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:467885] Mystery shrub seen in Scotland >>>>>> To: eFloraofIndia <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Glendoick gardens near Perth and Dundee, Scotland. are only open in >>>>>> April and May to the public. >>>>>> The garden is the home of the COX family. 3 x generations of plant >>>>>> hunters. >>>>>> They specialise in Rhododendrons but have other unusual shrubs. >>>>>> Now owned by Kenneth Cox, who runs the busy garden centre. >>>>>> >>>>>> I first noticed this shrub on 11th April 2024. >>>>>> 2 shrubs together. >>>>>> Appeared to be evergreen. >>>>>> One with tiny 4 petal flowers, one with brown bits...female and male >>>>>> on sepperate bushes? >>>>>> At first I thought it was Euonymus...but leaves are alternate. >>>>>> I have since popped back a few times to add more images. >>>>>> It formed white berries...not round. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please does any one here recognise it. >>>>>> Many thanks as always for your expert help. >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Sheila. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/2ae46a03-28fb-4b5b-ac69-e82abd9b9ac6n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/2ae46a03-28fb-4b5b-ac69-e82abd9b9ac6n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Navendu Page, PhD >>>>> >>>>> Scientist >>>>> Thackeray Wildlife Foundation >>>>> Ph: +91 9611053510 <+91%2096110%2053510> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/de4e83a6-4dc5-4b62-81de-f2ab468fb51dn%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/de4e83a6-4dc5-4b62-81de-f2ab468fb51dn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "eFloraofIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/a456991b-573f-40f5-9343-45e7307e7c06n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/a456991b-573f-40f5-9343-45e7307e7c06n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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