Thanks, Sheila ji.
I was the 1st who suggested Ilex initially.
I am happy that it is resolved now by you.

On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 at 00:38, 'PlantaholicSheila' via eFloraofIndia <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Many thanks  Saroj Kasaju  for interesting link.
> Leaves and flowers look exactly like my pics.
> I am thrilled to have taken pics of the berries from white to ripe and red.
> Hardly any pics on www of Ilex delaveyi.
> Maybe one day it will be propagated for gardeners/plant lovers to grow.
> Kind wishes from bonnie Scotland. UK.
>
> On Friday 18 October 2024 at 19:10:55 UTC+1 Saroj Kasaju wrote:
>
>> That is great news. https://ppbc.iplant.cn/sp/21617
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 11:34 PM 'PlantaholicSheila' via eFloraofIndia <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Mystery solved!
>>> After all this time I now know this is Ilex delaveyi.
>>> The RHS came up trumps with very full answer.
>>> Cannot copy and paste full reply so have added a photo of their most
>>> helpful message.
>>> [image: ILEX DELAVEYI 18-10-2024 18-25-12.JPG]
>>>
>>> On Sunday 8 September 2024 at 17:17:15 UTC+1 J.M. Garg wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Sheila ji.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 8 Sept 2024 at 17:57, 'PlantaholicSheila' via eFloraofIndia <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for looking.
>>>>> Yes Ilex is a possibility as it has tiny flowers with 4 petals.
>>>>> However, I have never seen any  Holly where the berries that start
>>>>> white, then go blush pink and finally red.
>>>>> Not any Ilex with berries that are not round.
>>>>> Below are the latest and last pics I took on 22nd August.
>>>>> Very few berries remained.
>>>>> The shrub was again flowering.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday 8 September 2024 at 13:14:15 UTC+1 navendu page wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps it could be a species of Ilex!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 7 Sept 2024 at 20:51, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 7 Sept 2024 at 20:39
>>>>>>> Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:467885] Mystery shrub seen in Scotland
>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Cc: <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2024 at 15:37
>>>>>>> Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:467885] Mystery shrub seen in Scotland
>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>>>>> Acronychia. ??
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>> Sir, Many thanks for looking and your suggestion of Acronychia.
>>>>>>> This a new plant for me so have tried to do my research.
>>>>>>> Sadly I  do not think it is a match.
>>>>>>> Acronychia leaves are opposite. Mystery shrub has alternate leaves
>>>>>>> ....  see image below.
>>>>>>> Acronychia the flowers are bisexual, with four sepals, four petals
>>>>>>> and eight stamens.
>>>>>>> Mystery plant only has 4 stamen.
>>>>>>> I think there may be 2 shrubs one was female, the 2nd next to it
>>>>>>> sadly the flowers were over brown and wilted...maybe the male.
>>>>>>> Acronychia seeds are black. mystery plant seeds were white...see
>>>>>>> image below
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronychia - from Sheila ji
>>>>>>> Thanks, Sheila ji.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pl. try Gaultheria and Gymnosporia- from me
>>>>>>> Thank you for looking sir and for your two suggestions.
>>>>>>> I do not think that it can be Gaultheria...as I do not believe that
>>>>>>> the flowers are right for Ericaceae.
>>>>>>> Quote wiki....
>>>>>>> *"Gaultheria* is a genus of about 283 species of shrubs
>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrub> in the family Ericaceae
>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ericaceae>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will check out Gymnosporia - from Sheila ji
>>>>>>> Pl. try Ilex like
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:A.aquif-flor_fem._-_7.jpg-
>>>>>>> from me
>>>>>>> I have added 2 more pics to show the seed capsule.
>>>>>>> I have never seen any Ilex sp...common name Holly with berries in 4
>>>>>>> parts.
>>>>>>> Flowers are nothing like the Ilex aquifolium link you added.
>>>>>>> Sorry.
>>>>>>> Thank you for looking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sheila
>>>>>>> https://www.gbif.org/species/5414222
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>> Thank you for the images of Ilex aquilifolium...a very common tree
>>>>>>> in UK.
>>>>>>> I know it well.
>>>>>>> Nothing is a match..not the flowers, leaves or berries.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The seed capsules are very very different to most plants they are
>>>>>>> not round but are in 4 segments. Rather like Euonymus. - from
>>>>>>> Sheila ji
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2024 at 15:32
>>>>>>> Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:467885] Mystery shrub seen in Scotland
>>>>>>> To: itpmods <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any idea about the family or genus?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>> From: 'PlantaholicSheila' via eFloraofIndia <
>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2024 at 14:13
>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:467885] Mystery shrub seen in Scotland
>>>>>>> To: eFloraofIndia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Glendoick gardens near Perth and Dundee, Scotland. are only open in
>>>>>>> April and May to the public.
>>>>>>> The garden is the home of the COX family. 3 x generations of plant
>>>>>>> hunters.
>>>>>>> They specialise in Rhododendrons but have other unusual shrubs.
>>>>>>> Now owned by Kenneth Cox, who runs the busy garden centre.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I first noticed this shrub on 11th April 2024.
>>>>>>> 2 shrubs together.
>>>>>>> Appeared to be evergreen.
>>>>>>> One with tiny 4 petal flowers,  one with brown bits...female and
>>>>>>> male on sepperate bushes?
>>>>>>> At first I thought it was Euonymus...but leaves are alternate.
>>>>>>> I have since popped back a few times to add more images.
>>>>>>> It formed white berries...not round.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please does any one here recognise it.
>>>>>>> Many thanks as always for your expert help.
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Sheila.
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