Seems *C.lanceolatum* as Saroj ji also suggested previously Regards On Monday, August 4, 2025 at 1:47:25 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] wrote:
> Dear Gurcharan ji, > Some photos of fruit and an unripe nutlet. > Hope they help in final ID > Regards > Taffazull > > On Sunday, August 3, 2025 at 7:03:16 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] wrote: > >> Dear Gurcharan ji, >> Thanks for your kind interest >> I too am waiting for the nutlets to form >> If no one destroys the plant which is growing on the roadside I think >> they will form in a few weeks. >> They will certainly I hope end speculation >> Sincere regards >> Taffazull >> >> On Sunday, August 3, 2025 at 2:23:19 PM UTC+5:30 Gurcharan Singh wrote: >> >>> Taffazul ji pl show nutlets, it will confirm >>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/vILGFyuFdyg/m/IddztoVm6YwJ >>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/nUE2qBDXlf8/m/6XJsKTfj5kkJ >>> >>> On Saturday, August 2, 2025 at 5:32:53 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>> wrote: >>> >>>> One more photo: >>>> Anther at X50 magnification. Stigma with papillae is also visible >>>> >>>> On Saturday, August 2, 2025 at 5:19:55 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> One more photo: >>>>> Corolla removed to show the stigma at the top of the 4 ovules (X50). >>>>> Apparently the gynobasic style is just long enough to reach the top of >>>>> the ovules and extends no further. Yellow anthers borne on very short >>>>> filaments are also visible >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, August 2, 2025 at 4:44:56 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Some more photos: >>>>>> Photo 1: Flower seen from above ( X 15). Subquadrate (rectangular), >>>>>> slightly emarginate(notched) faucal appendages with 5 anthers( 0.2-0.3mm >>>>>> broad} just below and between them. small square =1mm square >>>>>> Photo 2: Same flower at X50 magnification. The stigma can also be >>>>>> seen. It is very interesting that style is very short or perhaps absent. >>>>>> Kazmi in his description has omitted mention of style perhaps because it >>>>>> is >>>>>> not easily visible. I am not sure and would have to examine more flowers >>>>>> Photo 3 : Faucal appendages (50X) >>>>>> Photo 4: Faucal appendages (X50). I think puberlent as reported for >>>>>> C. wallichii >>>>>> All photos taken on 2/Aug/2025 >>>>>> All photos under CC licence(Attribution only required) >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, August 1, 2025 at 2:43:41 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I am specifically mentioning var *wallichii *because according to >>>>>>> Kazimi it is found among other places in Kashmir in *" .. environs >>>>>>> of Srinagar within a circle of 8 miles* *Schlagintweit 4503(US) >>>>>>> 4237 (GH) *.." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, August 1, 2025 at 2:31:28 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One more photo of plant with a plastic scale for comparison >>>>>>>> It now seems very probable to me that it is* C.wallichii *var >>>>>>>> *wallichii >>>>>>>> *considering the 1-1.5 mm long rounded corolla lobes. >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> taffazull >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 7:19:59 PM UTC+5:30 >>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think I was mistaken because of small size of inflorescence. >>>>>>>>> Under a magnifying glass the inflorescence appears scorpoid (See >>>>>>>>> photo INFLORESCENSE X15) >>>>>>>>> Wonder if it could be *C.wallichii *(Native of Nepal) >>>>>>>>> The following points regarding it given by Kazmi seem interesting >>>>>>>>> " Inflorescence terminal or axillary, usually geminate branches >>>>>>>>> divaricate >>>>>>>>> , ebracteate , *short scorpoid , bearing closely set flowers, >>>>>>>>> much elongated after flowering, pedicils none to very short in >>>>>>>>> flower..upto >>>>>>>>> 3mm in fruit, ..Corolla pale to deep blue ,campanulate, 3.5-4mm long >>>>>>>>> , tube >>>>>>>>> equalling the calyx , limbs equalling the tube , divided nearly to >>>>>>>>> the base >>>>>>>>> , lobes rounded, faucal appendages subquadrate , slightly >>>>>>>>> emarginate.." * >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> taffazull >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 10:24:13 AM UTC+5:30 >>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear Saroj ji, >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the suggestion >>>>>>>>>> According to Kazmi in C.zeylanicum trichomes are " upto 0.2 mm >>>>>>>>>> long *not arising from conspicuous tubercular bases" .* >>>>>>>>>> In my photo you can see that trichomes* arise from very >>>>>>>>>> conspicuous tubercular bases.* >>>>>>>>>> Further he mentions " Corolla blue , infundubiliform 5 mm long >>>>>>>>>> limbs 8-9 mm in diameter" . In this plant flowers are very tiny >>>>>>>>>> about 3-4mm >>>>>>>>>> diameter. >>>>>>>>>> If no one cuts the plant ( it is growing on roadside) and more >>>>>>>>>> flowers appear I will try to take close up pictures of flowers >>>>>>>>>> showing >>>>>>>>>> calyx also. Because of tiny flowers it may be difficult for me to >>>>>>>>>> dissect >>>>>>>>>> the flower to see the included anthers. >>>>>>>>>> The key points that I have noticed so far are: >>>>>>>>>> 1. Inflorescence is not a scorpioid cyme >>>>>>>>>> 2.Trichomes arise from prominent tubercular bases >>>>>>>>>> 3.Corolla limbs are white but throat part is blue >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 30, 2025 at 10:17:12 PM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Pls check *Cynoglossum zeylanicum *(Sw. ex Lehm.) Thunb. ex >>>>>>>>>>> Brand. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 4:59 PM [email protected] < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Photo of trichomes (X15) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion, visit >>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/f6a2687e-e95d-4d4a-98e5-30b5308fbf45n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/f6a2687e-e95d-4d4a-98e5-30b5308fbf45n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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