Ok Dr. Taffazull. Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju On Mon, Aug 4, 2025 at 2:26 PM [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Seems *C.lanceolatum* as Saroj ji also suggested previously > Regards > > On Monday, August 4, 2025 at 1:47:25 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] wrote: > >> Dear Gurcharan ji, >> Some photos of fruit and an unripe nutlet. >> Hope they help in final ID >> Regards >> Taffazull >> >> On Sunday, August 3, 2025 at 7:03:16 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >> wrote: >> >>> Dear Gurcharan ji, >>> Thanks for your kind interest >>> I too am waiting for the nutlets to form >>> If no one destroys the plant which is growing on the roadside I think >>> they will form in a few weeks. >>> They will certainly I hope end speculation >>> Sincere regards >>> Taffazull >>> >>> On Sunday, August 3, 2025 at 2:23:19 PM UTC+5:30 Gurcharan Singh wrote: >>> >>>> Taffazul ji pl show nutlets, it will confirm >>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/vILGFyuFdyg/m/IddztoVm6YwJ >>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/nUE2qBDXlf8/m/6XJsKTfj5kkJ >>>> >>>> On Saturday, August 2, 2025 at 5:32:53 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> One more photo: >>>>> Anther at X50 magnification. Stigma with papillae is also visible >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, August 2, 2025 at 5:19:55 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> One more photo: >>>>>> Corolla removed to show the stigma at the top of the 4 ovules (X50). >>>>>> Apparently the gynobasic style is just long enough to reach the top >>>>>> of the ovules and extends no further. Yellow anthers borne on very short >>>>>> filaments are also visible >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, August 2, 2025 at 4:44:56 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Some more photos: >>>>>>> Photo 1: Flower seen from above ( X 15). Subquadrate (rectangular), >>>>>>> slightly emarginate(notched) faucal appendages with 5 anthers( 0.2-0.3mm >>>>>>> broad} just below and between them. small square =1mm square >>>>>>> Photo 2: Same flower at X50 magnification. The stigma can also be >>>>>>> seen. It is very interesting that style is very short or perhaps absent. >>>>>>> Kazmi in his description has omitted mention of style perhaps because >>>>>>> it is >>>>>>> not easily visible. I am not sure and would have to examine more flowers >>>>>>> Photo 3 : Faucal appendages (50X) >>>>>>> Photo 4: Faucal appendages (X50). I think puberlent as reported for >>>>>>> C. wallichii >>>>>>> All photos taken on 2/Aug/2025 >>>>>>> All photos under CC licence(Attribution only required) >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, August 1, 2025 at 2:43:41 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am specifically mentioning var *wallichii *because according to >>>>>>>> Kazimi it is found among other places in Kashmir in *" .. >>>>>>>> environs of Srinagar within a circle of 8 miles* *Schlagintweit >>>>>>>> 4503(US) 4237 (GH) *.." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Friday, August 1, 2025 at 2:31:28 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> One more photo of plant with a plastic scale for comparison >>>>>>>>> It now seems very probable to me that it is* C.wallichii *var >>>>>>>>> *wallichii >>>>>>>>> *considering the 1-1.5 mm long rounded corolla lobes. >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> taffazull >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 7:19:59 PM UTC+5:30 >>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think I was mistaken because of small size of inflorescence. >>>>>>>>>> Under a magnifying glass the inflorescence appears scorpoid (See >>>>>>>>>> photo INFLORESCENSE X15) >>>>>>>>>> Wonder if it could be *C.wallichii *(Native of Nepal) >>>>>>>>>> The following points regarding it given by Kazmi seem interesting >>>>>>>>>> " Inflorescence terminal or axillary, usually geminate branches >>>>>>>>>> divaricate >>>>>>>>>> , ebracteate , *short scorpoid , bearing closely set flowers, >>>>>>>>>> much elongated after flowering, pedicils none to very short in >>>>>>>>>> flower..upto >>>>>>>>>> 3mm in fruit, ..Corolla pale to deep blue ,campanulate, 3.5-4mm long >>>>>>>>>> , tube >>>>>>>>>> equalling the calyx , limbs equalling the tube , divided nearly to >>>>>>>>>> the base >>>>>>>>>> , lobes rounded, faucal appendages subquadrate , slightly >>>>>>>>>> emarginate.." * >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> taffazull >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 10:24:13 AM UTC+5:30 >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dear Saroj ji, >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the suggestion >>>>>>>>>>> According to Kazmi in C.zeylanicum trichomes are " upto 0.2 >>>>>>>>>>> mm long *not arising from conspicuous tubercular bases" .* >>>>>>>>>>> In my photo you can see that trichomes* arise from very >>>>>>>>>>> conspicuous tubercular bases.* >>>>>>>>>>> Further he mentions " Corolla blue , infundubiliform 5 mm long >>>>>>>>>>> limbs 8-9 mm in diameter" . In this plant flowers are very tiny >>>>>>>>>>> about 3-4mm >>>>>>>>>>> diameter. >>>>>>>>>>> If no one cuts the plant ( it is growing on roadside) and more >>>>>>>>>>> flowers appear I will try to take close up pictures of flowers >>>>>>>>>>> showing >>>>>>>>>>> calyx also. Because of tiny flowers it may be difficult for me to >>>>>>>>>>> dissect >>>>>>>>>>> the flower to see the included anthers. >>>>>>>>>>> The key points that I have noticed so far are: >>>>>>>>>>> 1. Inflorescence is not a scorpioid cyme >>>>>>>>>>> 2.Trichomes arise from prominent tubercular bases >>>>>>>>>>> 3.Corolla limbs are white but throat part is blue >>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 30, 2025 at 10:17:12 PM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Pls check *Cynoglossum zeylanicum *(Sw. ex Lehm.) Thunb. ex >>>>>>>>>>>> Brand. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 4:59 PM [email protected] < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Photo of trichomes (X15) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/f6a2687e-e95d-4d4a-98e5-30b5308fbf45n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/f6a2687e-e95d-4d4a-98e5-30b5308fbf45n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "eFloraofIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/a9bbb958-40ae-44ec-9c13-d697a88eb175n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/a9bbb958-40ae-44ec-9c13-d697a88eb175n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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