Mr/Dr Madhavan: Great response... good for you, you'll go a lo..o...ong way in this world... Usha di
====== On Jun 17, 9:18 am, manudev madhavan <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear all, > > Heartiest thanks to the senior members for sharing their experiences...!!! > I feel lucky...!!! knowing the constraints faced by you people.. > I must say, I feel great being a researcher, who have chosen myself to this > arena of plant taxonomy.. During the course I had to let go a permanent > government job also.. > E-flora India has been giving so much positives to me.. > Thanks to all the members.. > Let us discuss..., argue..[?].. and fight...[?] only for the future of plant > taxonomy[?] in India and abroad.... > Hope everybody will take it in a right spirit, as the members have been > doing so far in this thread.. > > NB: Let me add one more thing... Having coming from a local village near > Wayanad District of Kerala, I was not much exposed to the scientific > community and was not able to communicate with the people easily. Now I > feel, a transformation is happening within me, feel confident in > communicating with people, and the great contribution from E-flora India, > can not be ignored. > > I know, I have to go miles again.. > Hoping for a great support from the eflora India members > > with warm regards > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Madhuri Pejaver > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > to project the slides used to be slide projecter. slide role used to be > > costly. so negatives sometimes were mounted in two carboards. > > no cut paste, no excell, the grafs were drawn by a draftsman or we have to > > learn it. > > The last carbo copy which could not be read by anybody was in students > > costady because the best three had to be submitted to University. > > what evolution and with what speed. really mind blowing. > > the photographs stuck many a times were stolen! > > haha > > Any way Still research was carried out and is still continued, but now > > People like you, Tanay and many more on this as welll as other yahoo groups > > will have to bear the responsibility to gain dignity to research in India! > > Madhuri > > > --- On Thu, 16/6/11, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > From: Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:71848] Re: TWO NEW SPECIES OF ERIOCAULON > > (ERIOCAULACEAE) FROM INDIA......!!! > > > To: "Gurcharan Singh" <[email protected]> > > > Cc: "Madhuri Pejaver" <[email protected]>, "efloraofindia" < > > [email protected]> > > > Date: Thursday, 16 June, 2011, 9:05 PM > > > Thats really interesting. I also used > > > film roll cameras too but yeah i > > > never processed the rolls myself. Those were the times when > > > with one > > > shot I used to pray to god that I please give me a good > > > shot :)) > > > Thanks for sharing these informations.... > > > Pankaj > > > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > Reminding of hard work by researchers, I remember when > > > we did our Ph.D., we > > > > used to take photograph on film camera, wash the film > > > ourselves in the dark > > > > room, purchase kodak rolls of photographic paper, cut > > > this and develop > > > > prints ourselves in the dark room. Those were the days > > > when research meant > > > > doing every thing yourself. There was no printing > > > available. Type the whole > > > > manuscript on manual type writer, three or four times, > > > after every proof > > > > correction, and when final draft was ready, get 4-5 > > > copies of this and for > > > > this you had to use 4-5 carbon papers, press each > > > stroke of type writer hard > > > > so that impression reaches to all the copies, and then > > > get it bound after > > > > inserting the photographs (mounted on A4 sheets). > > > Luckily the things are > > > > much easier now. > > > > > -- > > > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > > > > Retired Associate Professor > > > > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, > > > Delhi-110007 > > > > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > > > > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > > > >http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > >> Respected Mam > > > >> Thanks a lot for the mail. I think this is surely > > > going to be a > > > >> fruitful discussion, though we may not be able to > > > change patterns of > > > >> UGC or journals but hopefully we would be able to > > > change our > > > >> perceptions for the betterment of students. > > > >> Yes if you ask me, if I did it, yes I did it. I > > > went to multiple > > > >> libraries as much as I can. Still if I go anywhere > > > the first thing I > > > >> do is to look for whatever i can find on my > > > plants. I work 20hrs a day > > > >> on average and sometimes didnt sleep for 3 days on > > > average. Where my > > > >> colleague did his PhD in 3 years, I finished it in > > > 6 years. > > > >> I do believe that many good workers dont get > > > recognition and thats > > > >> really sad, especially indian researchers, it like > > > outsiders dont > > > >> trust their work. It is the perception based on > > > some of the fake > > > >> researches in India which created bad impression > > > about the good people > > > >> too. I hope such perception changes with time. I > > > always believe in > > > >> hard work and the second thing which a researcher > > > should have is > > > >> patience for sure. People running after money cant > > > do good research!! > > > >> but thats the fact of life in India, where a good > > > job is considered > > > >> better than a good education. People can leave > > > research in the middle > > > >> to get a simple job just because its permanent. > > > >> But still we have good researchers available in > > > India who can raise > > > >> the quality of research and hence recognition of > > > indian researchers to > > > >> higher level. I am always hopeful for a better > > > life, better > > > >> perception, better output of researchers in India > > > in future. > > > >> My best wishes to all, and dont forget I am also a > > > researcher :)) so > > > >> you all should give your good wishes to me too > > > :P... > > > >> Pankaj > > > > -- > > > *********************************************** > > > "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT > > > !!" > > > > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > > > Research Associate > > > Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project > > > Department of Habitat Ecology > > > Wildlife Institute of India > > > Post Box # 18 > > > Dehradun - 248001, India > > -- > *Manudev K Madhavan* > Junior Research Fellow > Systematic & Floristic Lab, > Department of Botany, > Centre for Postgraduate Studies & Research > St. Joseph's College, Devagiri > Kozhikode- 673 008 > Mob: 9496470738 > > 330.png > < 1KViewDownload > > 328.png > < 1KViewDownload
