Thank you Dinesh ji...
the color  pink vs yellow has bothered me about the identity ... true...

so its a good idea ...

 WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST IS TO KNOW THE PROCESS USED BY TAXONOMISTS TO
RECLASSIFY A PLANT BASED SOLELY ON THESE FEW PICTURES...  ARE THERE ENOUGH
FEATURES present to help in that direction? so a step by step method would
be very useful for me and other non-botanists....


Usha di
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On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote:

> Usha di ... the plant posted is not *Thespesia lampas* ... from the look
> of first image Banakapas 1 - though not sure, could be some species of *
> Gossypium*.
> Please wait for comment(s)
> Regards.
> Dinesh
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> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:40 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> ** Thanks Usha di. Will prefer Madhuri from you. Requested others. They
>> don't listen.
>> I learnt my Botany from my grand ma. She and me had a habit of bringing
>> cutting of any dam plant available in near visinity and plant it around our
>> house. It was a jungle in the area of around 100 feet by 20 feet. All
>> Malvaceaes and Aposynaceae, paps and what not were there. Most of the plants
>> for which I have told vernacular names were in my jungle, healthy and
>> flowering.
>> For Gauri, Ganapati and Mangalagauri we use to collect all patries
>> (leaves), from near by. So had to know the names. Nice were those days.
>> Thanks again. Will surely collect the seeds and photos too!
>> Madhuri
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>> *From: * ushadi Micromini <[email protected]>
>> *Sender: * [email protected]
>> *Date: *Wed, 7 Sep 2011 09:15:33 +0530
>> *To: *Madhuri Pejaver<[email protected]>
>> *Cc: *efloraofindia<[email protected]>; Gurcharan Singh<
>> [email protected]>; J.M. Garg<[email protected]>
>> *Subject: *Re: [efloraofindia:80100] Malvaceae week 09 05 2011 UD 004 Ban
>> Kapas Thespesia lampas Jungli Paras Piplo Kolkata 08
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>> Madhuri ji: what an acute observation as a child... smart.... have you
>> seen similar plants now?   if you do... please get some pics and seeds...
>> that would be lovely...
>> usha di
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>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Madhuri Pejaver <[email protected]>wrote:
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>>> Dear Ushadi
>>> In my childhood we had a cotton plant in our garden, I do not know the
>>> genus and sps. But it was called as Dev kapus.
>>> The cotton balles have seeds inside. In one variety all seeeds are joined
>>> togather to form one bundle. This is considered as good cotton?
>>> While the second one has its seeds seperate. For seperating the seeds the
>>> first one is better, Because cleaning is easy.
>>> we use to make the battis in lamps from this cotton. the plant was there
>>> atleast for 10 to 11 years as per my memory. We use to cut it to keep the
>>> proper height so that we can remove the cotton.  One day it fail in rain
>>> Madhuri
>>>
>>> --- On *Tue, 6/9/11, ushadi Micromini <[email protected]>*wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: ushadi Micromini <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:79982] Malvaceae week 09 05 2011 UD 004 Ban Kapas
>>> Thespesia lampas Jungli Paras Piplo Kolkata 08
>>> To: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]>, "Gurcharan Singh"
>>> <[email protected]>, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Tuesday, 6 September, 2011, 6:02 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear All:
>>>
>>> This is a new plant for me... never knew cotton plants would go on and on
>>> for years... this one does apparently... look at its stem... its about 8 - 9
>>> inches in diameter...  I always thought cotton plants were a yearly
>>> affair... may be the agricultural pathos had brainwashed me/us...
>>>
>>> This was in a well tended herbal Garden ... for demonstration purposes to
>>> Ethnomedicine and other students..
>>>
>>>
>>> Family :          Malvaceae
>>>
>>> * *
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>>> *Species:         Thespesia  lampus*  (Cav.) Dalz. Ex. Dalz. & Gibs.  ;
>>>
>>>                       Syn:   *Azanzas lampas* (Cav.) Alef.;
>>>
>>>                                 *Thespesia macrophylla* Blume
>>>
>>> Vernacular names :    Bengali:       Ban Kapas  *  *বন*‌ *কাপাস
>>>
>>>                                  Gujarati:      Jungli Para piplo  જંગલી
>>> *‌ *પ।રસ પીપળો
>>>
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>>>
>>> This specimen was about 9-10 feet tall, grew kinda straight up, had a few
>>> flowers,   I went in 4 pm , so the flowers were closing, but the petal color
>>> was still beautiful pink... and a few pods high up had opened up to reveal
>>> the cotton.  The leaves were varied in size... largest were 7-8 inches long.
>>>
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>>>
>>> What is used is:  Various tribes use differently... Some use flower paste
>>> for burn,  root paste  for eczema,  juice of young pods on Scabies.  I found
>>> it very curious that Santhals of Bengal mix  juice of its stem bark and
>>> Aristolochia indica root paste on snake bite....  this we learned in class.
>>>
>>>
>>> But along a Bengal village by the Damodar river we found an old lady who
>>> said she had in the past used the root bark juice to induce miscarriage (
>>> this is quite opposite to the effect of Thepesia populinea root bark paste
>>> effect... which says it helps women get pregnant, esp get a male child...
>>> curiouser and curiouser!!!)
>>>
>>>
>>> Come to think of it ... similar plant had been growing beyond the wall of
>>> students' garden at a Ayurvedic college... and the local young gardeners,
>>> very sheepishly asked us not to photograph it...
>>>
>>> there was so much else to learn that we did not pursue that tree...  but
>>> I distinctly remember it had cotton pods.. round ones , just like this
>>> one...
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks..
>>>
>>> Usha di
>>>
>>>
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