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-- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Madhuri Raut <[email protected]> wrote: > I too had a Dev kapus plant at my home in my childhood. We too used the > cotton to make vaatis. It used to get lovely yellow flowers. We used to wait > for the pod to burst open and the cotton to come out. But there was > competition with sparrows for the cotton as they used it to line their > nests. I have not seen this dev kapus plant for years now. I tried to get > one from the nursery but it was not available > You mentioned about Mangalagauri and patris that reminded me of Aghada > which we used to make malas for Jivati . I have not seen this plant for > years . Anyone has any pictures? > We also had a lot of plants and trees like Bel, Adulsa, Gavati chaha, > Korphad, Aghada and Dhotra which I do not get to see anymore. It is a pity. > Regards Bhagyashri > > > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:08 AM, ushadi Micromini < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Thank you Dinesh ji... >> the color pink vs yellow has bothered me about the identity ... true... >> >> so its a good idea ... >> >> WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST IS TO KNOW THE PROCESS USED BY TAXONOMISTS >> TO RECLASSIFY A PLANT BASED SOLELY ON THESE FEW PICTURES... ARE THERE >> ENOUGH FEATURES present to help in that direction? so a step by step method >> would be very useful for me and other non-botanists.... >> >> >> Usha di >> ====== >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Usha di ... the plant posted is not *Thespesia lampas* ... from the look >>> of first image Banakapas 1 - though not sure, could be some species of * >>> Gossypium*. >>> Please wait for comment(s) >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:40 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> ** Thanks Usha di. Will prefer Madhuri from you. Requested others. They >>>> don't listen. >>>> I learnt my Botany from my grand ma. She and me had a habit of bringing >>>> cutting of any dam plant available in near visinity and plant it around our >>>> house. It was a jungle in the area of around 100 feet by 20 feet. All >>>> Malvaceaes and Aposynaceae, paps and what not were there. Most of the >>>> plants >>>> for which I have told vernacular names were in my jungle, healthy and >>>> flowering. >>>> For Gauri, Ganapati and Mangalagauri we use to collect all patries >>>> (leaves), from near by. So had to know the names. Nice were those days. >>>> Thanks again. Will surely collect the seeds and photos too! >>>> Madhuri >>>> >>>> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: * ushadi Micromini <[email protected]> >>>> *Sender: * [email protected] >>>> *Date: *Wed, 7 Sep 2011 09:15:33 +0530 >>>> *To: *Madhuri Pejaver<[email protected]> >>>> *Cc: *efloraofindia<[email protected]>; Gurcharan Singh< >>>> [email protected]>; J.M. Garg<[email protected]> >>>> *Subject: *Re: [efloraofindia:80100] Malvaceae week 09 05 2011 UD 004 >>>> Ban Kapas Thespesia lampas Jungli Paras Piplo Kolkata 08 >>>> >>>> Madhuri ji: what an acute observation as a child... smart.... have you >>>> seen similar plants now? if you do... please get some pics and seeds... >>>> that would be lovely... >>>> usha di >>>> == >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Madhuri Pejaver >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Ushadi >>>>> In my childhood we had a cotton plant in our garden, I do not know the >>>>> genus and sps. But it was called as Dev kapus. >>>>> The cotton balles have seeds inside. In one variety all seeeds are >>>>> joined togather to form one bundle. This is considered as good cotton? >>>>> While the second one has its seeds seperate. For seperating the seeds >>>>> the first one is better, Because cleaning is easy. >>>>> we use to make the battis in lamps from this cotton. the plant was >>>>> there atleast for 10 to 11 years as per my memory. We use to cut it to >>>>> keep >>>>> the proper height so that we can remove the cotton. One day it fail in >>>>> rain >>>>> Madhuri >>>>> >>>>> --- On *Tue, 6/9/11, ushadi Micromini <[email protected]>*wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: ushadi Micromini <[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:79982] Malvaceae week 09 05 2011 UD 004 Ban >>>>> Kapas Thespesia lampas Jungli Paras Piplo Kolkata 08 >>>>> To: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]>, "Gurcharan >>>>> Singh" <[email protected]>, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >>>>> Date: Tuesday, 6 September, 2011, 6:02 PM >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear All: >>>>> >>>>> This is a new plant for me... never knew cotton plants would go on and >>>>> on for years... this one does apparently... look at its stem... its about >>>>> 8 >>>>> - 9 inches in diameter... I always thought cotton plants were a yearly >>>>> affair... may be the agricultural pathos had brainwashed me/us... >>>>> >>>>> This was in a well tended herbal Garden ... for demonstration purposes >>>>> to Ethnomedicine and other students.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Family : Malvaceae >>>>> >>>>> * * >>>>> >>>>> *Species: Thespesia lampus* (Cav.) Dalz. Ex. Dalz. & Gibs. ; >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Syn: *Azanzas lampas* (Cav.) Alef.; >>>>> >>>>> *Thespesia macrophylla* Blume >>>>> >>>>> Vernacular names : Bengali: Ban Kapas * *বন* *কাপাস >>>>> >>>>> Gujarati: Jungli Para piplo >>>>> જંગલી* *પ।રસ પીપળો >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This specimen was about 9-10 feet tall, grew kinda straight up, had a >>>>> few flowers, I went in 4 pm , so the flowers were closing, but the petal >>>>> color was still beautiful pink... and a few pods high up had opened up to >>>>> reveal the cotton. The leaves were varied in size... largest were 7-8 >>>>> inches long. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What is used is: Various tribes use differently... Some use flower >>>>> paste for burn, root paste for eczema, juice of young pods on Scabies. >>>>> I >>>>> found it very curious that Santhals of Bengal mix juice of its stem bark >>>>> and Aristolochia indica root paste on snake bite.... this we learned in >>>>> class. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> But along a Bengal village by the Damodar river we found an old lady >>>>> who said she had in the past used the root bark juice to induce >>>>> miscarriage >>>>> ( this is quite opposite to the effect of Thepesia populinea root bark >>>>> paste >>>>> effect... which says it helps women get pregnant, esp get a male child... >>>>> curiouser and curiouser!!!) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Come to think of it ... similar plant had been growing beyond the wall >>>>> of students' garden at a Ayurvedic college... and the local young >>>>> gardeners, >>>>> very sheepishly asked us not to photograph it... >>>>> >>>>> there was so much else to learn that we did not pursue that tree... >>>>> but I distinctly remember it had cotton pods.. round ones , just like this >>>>> one... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks.. >>>>> >>>>> Usha di >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
