I too had a Dev kapus plant at my home in my childhood. We too used the cotton to make vaatis. It used to get lovely yellow flowers. We used to wait for the pod to burst open and the cotton to come out. But there was competition with sparrows for the cotton as they used it to line their nests. I have not seen this dev kapus plant for years now. I tried to get one from the nursery but it was not available You mentioned about Mangalagauri and patris that reminded me of Aghada which we used to make malas for Jivati . I have not seen this plant for years . Anyone has any pictures? We also had a lot of plants and trees like Bel, Adulsa, Gavati chaha, Korphad, Aghada and Dhotra which I do not get to see anymore. It is a pity. Regards Bhagyashri
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:08 AM, ushadi Micromini <[email protected]>wrote: > Thank you Dinesh ji... > the color pink vs yellow has bothered me about the identity ... true... > > so its a good idea ... > > WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST IS TO KNOW THE PROCESS USED BY TAXONOMISTS TO > RECLASSIFY A PLANT BASED SOLELY ON THESE FEW PICTURES... ARE THERE ENOUGH > FEATURES present to help in that direction? so a step by step method would > be very useful for me and other non-botanists.... > > > Usha di > ====== > > > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Usha di ... the plant posted is not *Thespesia lampas* ... from the look >> of first image Banakapas 1 - though not sure, could be some species of * >> Gossypium*. >> Please wait for comment(s) >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:40 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> ** Thanks Usha di. Will prefer Madhuri from you. Requested others. They >>> don't listen. >>> I learnt my Botany from my grand ma. She and me had a habit of bringing >>> cutting of any dam plant available in near visinity and plant it around our >>> house. It was a jungle in the area of around 100 feet by 20 feet. All >>> Malvaceaes and Aposynaceae, paps and what not were there. Most of the plants >>> for which I have told vernacular names were in my jungle, healthy and >>> flowering. >>> For Gauri, Ganapati and Mangalagauri we use to collect all patries >>> (leaves), from near by. So had to know the names. Nice were those days. >>> Thanks again. Will surely collect the seeds and photos too! >>> Madhuri >>> >>> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: * ushadi Micromini <[email protected]> >>> *Sender: * [email protected] >>> *Date: *Wed, 7 Sep 2011 09:15:33 +0530 >>> *To: *Madhuri Pejaver<[email protected]> >>> *Cc: *efloraofindia<[email protected]>; Gurcharan Singh< >>> [email protected]>; J.M. Garg<[email protected]> >>> *Subject: *Re: [efloraofindia:80100] Malvaceae week 09 05 2011 UD 004 >>> Ban Kapas Thespesia lampas Jungli Paras Piplo Kolkata 08 >>> >>> Madhuri ji: what an acute observation as a child... smart.... have you >>> seen similar plants now? if you do... please get some pics and seeds... >>> that would be lovely... >>> usha di >>> == >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Madhuri Pejaver >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Ushadi >>>> In my childhood we had a cotton plant in our garden, I do not know the >>>> genus and sps. But it was called as Dev kapus. >>>> The cotton balles have seeds inside. In one variety all seeeds are >>>> joined togather to form one bundle. This is considered as good cotton? >>>> While the second one has its seeds seperate. For seperating the seeds >>>> the first one is better, Because cleaning is easy. >>>> we use to make the battis in lamps from this cotton. the plant was there >>>> atleast for 10 to 11 years as per my memory. We use to cut it to keep the >>>> proper height so that we can remove the cotton. One day it fail in rain >>>> Madhuri >>>> >>>> --- On *Tue, 6/9/11, ushadi Micromini <[email protected]>*wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> From: ushadi Micromini <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:79982] Malvaceae week 09 05 2011 UD 004 Ban >>>> Kapas Thespesia lampas Jungli Paras Piplo Kolkata 08 >>>> To: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]>, "Gurcharan Singh" >>>> <[email protected]>, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >>>> Date: Tuesday, 6 September, 2011, 6:02 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear All: >>>> >>>> This is a new plant for me... never knew cotton plants would go on and >>>> on for years... this one does apparently... look at its stem... its about 8 >>>> - 9 inches in diameter... I always thought cotton plants were a yearly >>>> affair... may be the agricultural pathos had brainwashed me/us... >>>> >>>> This was in a well tended herbal Garden ... for demonstration purposes >>>> to Ethnomedicine and other students.. >>>> >>>> >>>> Family : Malvaceae >>>> >>>> * * >>>> >>>> *Species: Thespesia lampus* (Cav.) Dalz. Ex. Dalz. & Gibs. ; >>>> >>>> >>>> Syn: *Azanzas lampas* (Cav.) Alef.; >>>> >>>> *Thespesia macrophylla* Blume >>>> >>>> Vernacular names : Bengali: Ban Kapas * *বন* *কাপাস >>>> >>>> Gujarati: Jungli Para piplo >>>> જંગલી* *પ।રસ પીપળો >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This specimen was about 9-10 feet tall, grew kinda straight up, had a >>>> few flowers, I went in 4 pm , so the flowers were closing, but the petal >>>> color was still beautiful pink... and a few pods high up had opened up to >>>> reveal the cotton. The leaves were varied in size... largest were 7-8 >>>> inches long. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> What is used is: Various tribes use differently... Some use flower >>>> paste for burn, root paste for eczema, juice of young pods on Scabies. >>>> I >>>> found it very curious that Santhals of Bengal mix juice of its stem bark >>>> and Aristolochia indica root paste on snake bite.... this we learned in >>>> class. >>>> >>>> >>>> But along a Bengal village by the Damodar river we found an old lady who >>>> said she had in the past used the root bark juice to induce miscarriage ( >>>> this is quite opposite to the effect of Thepesia populinea root bark paste >>>> effect... which says it helps women get pregnant, esp get a male child... >>>> curiouser and curiouser!!!) >>>> >>>> >>>> Come to think of it ... similar plant had been growing beyond the wall >>>> of students' garden at a Ayurvedic college... and the local young >>>> gardeners, >>>> very sheepishly asked us not to photograph it... >>>> >>>> there was so much else to learn that we did not pursue that tree... but >>>> I distinctly remember it had cotton pods.. round ones , just like this >>>> one... >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks.. >>>> >>>> Usha di >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
