dismayed... how can any authority do that? silly... i will continue to use t. alata for the indian..black eyed susan... to heck with so called expert sitting in china or wherever.... usha di ====
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Giby Kuriakose <[email protected]>wrote: > > Sir ji, > > I am not getting convinced myself on *T. grandiflora* getting synonymised > with *T. alata. *Please find attached herewith the recent revision (2011) > incorporated with eflora of China. > Please share if someone has any relevant information regarding the same. > > > Thanks and Regards, > Giby > > > > > > On 23 October 2011 13:04, H S <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Mam please refer to above sirji's post or check this >> >> >> >> Giby ji >> Please refer to my earlier posts. *Thunbergia grandiflora Roxb. is now >> correctly known as T. alata Bojer ex Sims* according to the Plant List. >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:46 AM, ushadi Micromini < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> HS... I dont think anybody said anything about T. alata in this thread... >>> >>> please dont confuse me... and the issue... >>> >>> T. alata i am very familiar with, used to grow at least 3 of these vines >>> in my Demonstration garden of Indian vegetables and flowers at NYBG and I >>> did it for many years thru the 90s >>> >>> usha di >>> === >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:37 AM, H S <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Cant believe that Thunbergia grandiflora and Thunbergia alata are one >>>> and the same... >>>> where the literature says one from India and other from Africa with lots >>>> of distinct characters.. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Giby Kuriakose < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Sir >>>>> >>>>> I got it and I somehow didn't get that when I searched for the T >>>>> grandiflora. Thank you for correcting me. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks and regards, >>>>> Giby. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 23 October 2011 11:19, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Giby ji >>>>>> Please refer to my earlier posts. Thunbergia grandiflora Roxb. is now >>>>>> correctly known as T. alata Bojer ex Sims according to the Plant List. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Giby Kuriakose < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I think *T. laurifolia* is the accepted name for *T. grandiflora*var. >>>>>>> *laurifolia *as per the plant list*.* >>>>>>> FOI also says so @ >>>>>>> http://www.flowersofindia.in/catalog/slides/Laurel%20Clock%20Vine.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But the 2011 revision of Flora of China says *Thunbergia >>>>>>> grandiflora. * >>>>>>> While searching for *T. grandiflora* I couldn't see the species name >>>>>>> as such in the plant list >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Giby >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 23 October 2011 08:28, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would rather go with Thunbergia laurifolia >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Madhuri Raut >>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you Ushadi >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> Bhagyashri >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Ushadi micromini < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is thunbergia grandiflora... >>>>>>>>>> Madhuri... look at the leaf very carefully and take en face photo >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> one complete leaf to show leaf margin and attachment to the stem.. >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> your own files and memory.. >>>>>>>>>> leaf shape is unique... >>>>>>>>>> even if flower color shows a great deal of variation over time and >>>>>>>>>> regions... >>>>>>>>>> the leaf almost stays the same.... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have found these in Miami, Fl, Key west, florida, california... >>>>>>>>>> naturalized and in gardens and in snowy countryside in botanical >>>>>>>>>> gardens, in England at kew and of course all over India... in >>>>>>>>>> Bengal >>>>>>>>>> we get several colors... of course always in the blue- bluish >>>>>>>>>> white >>>>>>>>>> to bluishpurple (like yours) ..... develops seeds in Key west fl >>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>> not seen any seedpods on any of the hundred or so vines I keep an >>>>>>>>>> eye >>>>>>>>>> on off and on for three years in in several neighborhoods of >>>>>>>>>> Kolkata >>>>>>>>>> recently partly because local women do not leave mush after they >>>>>>>>>> pluck every darn flower for worship or just because... ( its a >>>>>>>>>> disease in India) ... GOD never wanted soooo many flowers as to >>>>>>>>>> deplete the gene pool... ) ... or we dont have appropriate >>>>>>>>>> pollinators... even if we had pollinators, they would not >>>>>>>>>> develop a >>>>>>>>>> habit of coming to that vine if they were not assured of some good >>>>>>>>>> appreciable amount of nectar from a large numbers of flowers... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>> ======== >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Oct 22, 9:42 pm, Tanay Bose <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > 100% correct from Giby Ji I stand corrected >>>>>>>>>> > Tanay >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Giby Kuriakose < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > *Thunbergia grandiflora* of Acanthaceae family >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > Regards, >>>>>>>>>> > > Giby >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > On 22 October 2011 22:02, Madhuri Raut <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> Request for validation ?Purple Allamanda >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> Date/Time-Oct 2011 >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> Location- Place, Altitude, GPS-Pune >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- Private Garden >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- Climber was along a >>>>>>>>>> fence of a >>>>>>>>>> > >> garden >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- green >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-bluish purple flowers >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-not seen >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> Regards >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> Bhagyashri >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > -- >>>>>>>>>> > > GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD >>>>>>>>>> > > Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment >>>>>>>>>> (ATREE), >>>>>>>>>> > > Royal Enclave, >>>>>>>>>> > > Jakkur Post, Srirampura >>>>>>>>>> > > Bangalore- 560064 >>>>>>>>>> > > India >>>>>>>>>> > > Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) >>>>>>>>>> > > visit my pictures @http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>>>> > *Tanay Bose* >>>>>>>>>> > Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant. >>>>>>>>>> > Department of Botany. >>>>>>>>>> > University of British Columbia . >>>>>>>>>> > 3529-6270 University Blvd. >>>>>>>>>> > Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) >>>>>>>>>> > Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile) >>>>>>>>>> > 604-822-2019 (Lab) >>>>>>>>>> > 604-822-6089 (Fax) >>>>>>>>>> > [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> > *Webpages:* >>>>>>>>>> http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.htmlhttp://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.htmlhttps://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD >>>>>>> Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), >>>>>>> Royal Enclave, >>>>>>> Jakkur Post, Srirampura >>>>>>> Bangalore- 560064 >>>>>>> India >>>>>>> Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) >>>>>>> visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD >>>>> Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), >>>>> Royal Enclave, >>>>> Jakkur Post, Srirampura >>>>> Bangalore- 560064 >>>>> India >>>>> Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) >>>>> visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> - H.S. >>>> >>>> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart >>>> of stone >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> - H.S. >> >> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of >> stone >> >> > > > -- > GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD > Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), > Royal Enclave, > Jakkur Post, Srirampura > Bangalore- 560064 > India > Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) > visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby >
