Many thanks for this helpful clarification. Regards. Dinesh
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: > Latin doesnt have CH as in Chacha and G as in Jeeta instead it is > pronounced as K as in Kaka and G as in Gadha :P. > So Chacha of LATIN should be pronounced as KAKA which actually means > the same in Hindi.... > Funny.... > Pankaj > > > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Well said. > > I am tempted to change the pronunciation from char-AN-tee-a TO > kar-AN-tee-a > > !! > > Regards. > > Dinesh > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> By the way, this also means how the pronunciation of the species name > >> should be. Not charantia but karantia :) > >> Same as Orkid for Orchid. > >> Pankaj > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > Yes sir because it was originally described before Linne from Malabar > >> > by Van Rheede. > >> > Pankaj > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> >> Dear Pankaj, in my mother tongue (Konkani), we call it by name कारंतॅ > >> >> karante (kA-run-tay) or कारतॅ karate (kA-ruh-tay) OR काराते kaaraate > >> >> (kA-rAh-tay) > >> >> When compiled names from various sources, was surprised to have found > >> >> only > >> >> the Konkani name got closest to the epithet charantia. > >> >> > >> >> Regards. > >> >> Dinesh > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected] > > > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Interesting!!! > >> >>> See when you get down to scientific work you can show wonders!! > >> >>> Pankaj > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Pankaj Oudhia < > [email protected]> > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>> > चरन्ती, करन्ती, चरैन्ती - I am trying my Sanskrit name Database > just > >> >>> > as > >> >>> > wild > >> >>> > guess. Also written to my African friends to search this word in > >> >>> > their > >> >>> > ancient dialects. It is also based on wild guess. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > regards > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Pankaj Oudhia > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Pankaj Kumar > >> >>> > <[email protected]> > >> >>> > wrote: > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Sorry but I couldn't find any reference of this from pre-linnean > >> >>> >> era !! > >> >>> >> Pankaj > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Pankaj Oudhia > >> >>> >> <[email protected]> > >> >>> >> wrote: > >> >>> >> > Charantia is pre linnaeus name. > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > http://www.naturalpedia.com/charantia.html > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > regards > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > Pankaj Oudhia > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar > >> >>> >> > <[email protected]> > >> >>> >> > wrote: > >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> Oudhia sir to chha gaye ek dum :P.... > >> >>> >> >> Thanks for the link. Will try to get this article. Since long > I > >> >>> >> >> am > >> >>> >> >> interested in knowing the origin of the species name charantia > >> >>> >> >> but > >> >>> >> >> its > >> >>> >> >> not > >> >>> >> >> in Species Plantarum or anything before it. I have checked > >> >>> >> >> Hortus > >> >>> >> >> Cliffortianus and Flora Zeylanica by Linne. > >> >>> >> >> Pankaj > >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> -- > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > ********************************************************************** > >> >>> >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > >> >>> >> Conservation Officer > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Office: > >> >>> >> Orchid Conservation Section > >> >>> >> Flora Conservation Department > >> >>> >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > >> >>> >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Residence: > >> >>> >> 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun > >> >>> >> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> email: [email protected] > >> >>> >> [email protected] > >> >>> >> [email protected] > >> >>> >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) > >> >>> >> +852 9436 6251 (mobile) > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> -- > >> >>> > ********************************************************************** > >> >>> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > >> >>> Conservation Officer > >> >>> > >> >>> Office: > >> >>> Orchid Conservation Section > >> >>> Flora Conservation Department > >> >>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > >> >>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > >> >>> > >> >>> Residence: > >> >>> 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun > >> >>> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > >> >>> > >> >>> email: [email protected] > >> >>> [email protected] > >> >>> [email protected] > >> >>> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) > >> >>> +852 9436 6251 (mobile) > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > ********************************************************************** > >> > "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" > >> > > >> > > >> > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > >> > Conservation Officer > >> > > >> > Office: > >> > Orchid Conservation Section > >> > Flora Conservation Department > >> > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > >> > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > >> > > >> > Residence: > >> > 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun > >> > Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > >> > > >> > email: [email protected] > >> > [email protected] > >> > [email protected] > >> > Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) > >> > +852 9436 6251 (mobile) > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> ********************************************************************** > >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" > >> > >> > >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > >> Conservation Officer > >> > >> Office: > >> Orchid Conservation Section > >> Flora Conservation Department > >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > >> > >> Residence: > >> 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun > >> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > >> > >> email: [email protected] > >> [email protected] > >> [email protected] > >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) > >> +852 9436 6251 (mobile) > > > > > > > > -- > ********************************************************************** > "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" > > > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > Conservation Officer > > Office: > Orchid Conservation Section > Flora Conservation Department > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > > Residence: > 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun > Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > > email: [email protected] > [email protected] > [email protected] > Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) > +852 9436 6251 (mobile) >

