Momordica charantia is mentioned as Momordica karantia in few websites in internet.
https://www.google.com/search?q=momordica+karantia&num=100&hl=en&safe=off&pwst=1&nfpr=1&prmd=imvns&filter=0&biw=1024&bih=677 regards Pankaj Oudhia On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: > Many thanks Pankaj ji for digging into the Sanskrit names. > Regards. > Dinesh > > > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Vaah kya baat hai. Maja aa gaya. Thanks. >> >> Back to >> कठिल्लक or कठिल्ल Dinesh ji. It seems that both Sanskrit words tell >> about some properties because these plants are also known as कठिल्लक or >> कठिल्ल >> रक्त पुनर्नवा , गदहपूरना, सांठ and तुलसी >> >> From other source >> >> कारवेल्ल, कारवल्ली are Sanskrit names for Karela. >> कारवेल्ली is name forकरेली >> >> regards >> Pankaj Oudhia >> >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Latin doesnt have CH as in Chacha and G as in Jeeta instead it is >>> pronounced as K as in Kaka and G as in Gadha :P. >>> So Chacha of LATIN should be pronounced as KAKA which actually means >>> the same in Hindi.... >>> Funny.... >>> Pankaj >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > Well said. >>> > I am tempted to change the pronunciation from char-AN-tee-a TO >>> kar-AN-tee-a >>> > !! >>> > Regards. >>> > Dinesh >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> By the way, this also means how the pronunciation of the species name >>> >> should be. Not charantia but karantia :) >>> >> Same as Orkid for Orchid. >>> >> Pankaj >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> > Yes sir because it was originally described before Linne from >>> Malabar >>> >> > by Van Rheede. >>> >> > Pankaj >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Dinesh Valke < >>> [email protected]> >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> >> Dear Pankaj, in my mother tongue (Konkani), we call it by name >>> कारंतॅ >>> >> >> karante (kA-run-tay) or कारतॅ karate (kA-ruh-tay) OR काराते >>> kaaraate >>> >> >> (kA-rAh-tay) >>> >> >> When compiled names from various sources, was surprised to have >>> found >>> >> >> only >>> >> >> the Konkani name got closest to the epithet charantia. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Regards. >>> >> >> Dinesh >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Pankaj Kumar < >>> [email protected]> >>> >> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Interesting!!! >>> >> >>> See when you get down to scientific work you can show wonders!! >>> >> >>> Pankaj >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Pankaj Oudhia < >>> [email protected]> >>> >> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> > चरन्ती, करन्ती, चरैन्ती - I am trying my Sanskrit name Database >>> just >>> >> >>> > as >>> >> >>> > wild >>> >> >>> > guess. Also written to my African friends to search this word in >>> >> >>> > their >>> >> >>> > ancient dialects. It is also based on wild guess. >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > regards >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > Pankaj Oudhia >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Pankaj Kumar >>> >> >>> > <[email protected]> >>> >> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Sorry but I couldn't find any reference of this from >>> pre-linnean >>> >> >>> >> era !! >>> >> >>> >> Pankaj >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Pankaj Oudhia >>> >> >>> >> <[email protected]> >>> >> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> > Charantia is pre linnaeus name. >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > http://www.naturalpedia.com/charantia.html >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > regards >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > Pankaj Oudhia >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar >>> >> >>> >> > <[email protected]> >>> >> >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> Oudhia sir to chha gaye ek dum :P.... >>> >> >>> >> >> Thanks for the link. Will try to get this article. Since >>> long I >>> >> >>> >> >> am >>> >> >>> >> >> interested in knowing the origin of the species name >>> charantia >>> >> >>> >> >> but >>> >> >>> >> >> its >>> >> >>> >> >> not >>> >> >>> >> >> in Species Plantarum or anything before it. I have checked >>> >> >>> >> >> Hortus >>> >> >>> >> >> Cliffortianus and Flora Zeylanica by Linne. >>> >> >>> >> >> Pankaj >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ********************************************************************** >>> >> >>> >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >>> >> >>> >> Conservation Officer >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Office: >>> >> >>> >> Orchid Conservation Section >>> >> >>> >> Flora Conservation Department >>> >> >>> >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>> >> >>> >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Residence: >>> >> >>> >> 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >>> >> >>> >> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> email: [email protected] >>> >> >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> >>> >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >>> >> >>> >> +852 9436 6251 (mobile) >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> -- >>> >> >>> >>> ********************************************************************** >>> >> >>> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >>> >> >>> Conservation Officer >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Office: >>> >> >>> Orchid Conservation Section >>> >> >>> Flora Conservation Department >>> >> >>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>> >> >>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Residence: >>> >> >>> 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >>> >> >>> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> email: [email protected] >>> >> >>> [email protected] >>> >> >>> [email protected] >>> >> >>> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >>> >> >>> +852 9436 6251 (mobile) >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > >>> ********************************************************************** >>> >> > "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >>> >> > Conservation Officer >>> >> > >>> >> > Office: >>> >> > Orchid Conservation Section >>> >> > Flora Conservation Department >>> >> > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>> >> > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>> >> > >>> >> > Residence: >>> >> > 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >>> >> > Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>> >> > >>> >> > email: [email protected] >>> >> > [email protected] >>> >> > [email protected] >>> >> > Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >>> >> > +852 9436 6251 (mobile) >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> ********************************************************************** >>> >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >>> >> Conservation Officer >>> >> >>> >> Office: >>> >> Orchid Conservation Section >>> >> Flora Conservation Department >>> >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>> >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>> >> >>> >> Residence: >>> >> 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >>> >> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>> >> >>> >> email: [email protected] >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >>> >> +852 9436 6251 (mobile) >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ********************************************************************** >>> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >>> >>> >>> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >>> Conservation Officer >>> >>> Office: >>> Orchid Conservation Section >>> Flora Conservation Department >>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>> >>> Residence: >>> 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >>> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>> >>> email: [email protected] >>> [email protected] >>> [email protected] >>> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >>> +852 9436 6251 (mobile) >>> >> >> >
