Many thanks Pankaj ji for digging into the Sanskrit names. Regards. Dinesh
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]>wrote: > Vaah kya baat hai. Maja aa gaya. Thanks. > > Back to > कठिल्लक or कठिल्ल Dinesh ji. It seems that both Sanskrit words tell about > some properties because these plants are also known as कठिल्लक or कठिल्ल > रक्त पुनर्नवा , गदहपूरना, सांठ and तुलसी > > From other source > > कारवेल्ल, कारवल्ली are Sanskrit names for Karela. > कारवेल्ली is name forकरेली > > regards > Pankaj Oudhia > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Latin doesnt have CH as in Chacha and G as in Jeeta instead it is >> pronounced as K as in Kaka and G as in Gadha :P. >> So Chacha of LATIN should be pronounced as KAKA which actually means >> the same in Hindi.... >> Funny.... >> Pankaj >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Well said. >> > I am tempted to change the pronunciation from char-AN-tee-a TO >> kar-AN-tee-a >> > !! >> > Regards. >> > Dinesh >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> By the way, this also means how the pronunciation of the species name >> >> should be. Not charantia but karantia :) >> >> Same as Orkid for Orchid. >> >> Pankaj >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > Yes sir because it was originally described before Linne from Malabar >> >> > by Van Rheede. >> >> > Pankaj >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected] >> > >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> Dear Pankaj, in my mother tongue (Konkani), we call it by name >> कारंतॅ >> >> >> karante (kA-run-tay) or कारतॅ karate (kA-ruh-tay) OR काराते kaaraate >> >> >> (kA-rAh-tay) >> >> >> When compiled names from various sources, was surprised to have >> found >> >> >> only >> >> >> the Konkani name got closest to the epithet charantia. >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards. >> >> >> Dinesh >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Pankaj Kumar < >> [email protected]> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Interesting!!! >> >> >>> See when you get down to scientific work you can show wonders!! >> >> >>> Pankaj >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Pankaj Oudhia < >> [email protected]> >> >> >>> wrote: >> >> >>> > चरन्ती, करन्ती, चरैन्ती - I am trying my Sanskrit name Database >> just >> >> >>> > as >> >> >>> > wild >> >> >>> > guess. Also written to my African friends to search this word in >> >> >>> > their >> >> >>> > ancient dialects. It is also based on wild guess. >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > regards >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > Pankaj Oudhia >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Pankaj Kumar >> >> >>> > <[email protected]> >> >> >>> > wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> Sorry but I couldn't find any reference of this from pre-linnean >> >> >>> >> era !! >> >> >>> >> Pankaj >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Pankaj Oudhia >> >> >>> >> <[email protected]> >> >> >>> >> wrote: >> >> >>> >> > Charantia is pre linnaeus name. >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> > http://www.naturalpedia.com/charantia.html >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> > regards >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> > Pankaj Oudhia >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar >> >> >>> >> > <[email protected]> >> >> >>> >> > wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Oudhia sir to chha gaye ek dum :P.... >> >> >>> >> >> Thanks for the link. Will try to get this article. Since >> long I >> >> >>> >> >> am >> >> >>> >> >> interested in knowing the origin of the species name >> charantia >> >> >>> >> >> but >> >> >>> >> >> its >> >> >>> >> >> not >> >> >>> >> >> in Species Plantarum or anything before it. I have checked >> >> >>> >> >> Hortus >> >> >>> >> >> Cliffortianus and Flora Zeylanica by Linne. >> >> >>> >> >> Pankaj >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> -- >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> ********************************************************************** >> >> >>> >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> >> >>> >> Conservation Officer >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> Office: >> >> >>> >> Orchid Conservation Section >> >> >>> >> Flora Conservation Department >> >> >>> >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> >> >>> >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> Residence: >> >> >>> >> 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >> >> >>> >> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> email: [email protected] >> >> >>> >> [email protected] >> >> >>> >> [email protected] >> >> >>> >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >> >> >>> >> +852 9436 6251 (mobile) >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> -- >> >> >>> >> ********************************************************************** >> >> >>> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> >> >>> Conservation Officer >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Office: >> >> >>> Orchid Conservation Section >> >> >>> Flora Conservation Department >> >> >>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> >> >>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Residence: >> >> >>> 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >> >> >>> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> email: [email protected] >> >> >>> [email protected] >> >> >>> [email protected] >> >> >>> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >> >> >>> +852 9436 6251 (mobile) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > >> ********************************************************************** >> >> > "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> >> > Conservation Officer >> >> > >> >> > Office: >> >> > Orchid Conservation Section >> >> > Flora Conservation Department >> >> > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> >> > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> > >> >> > Residence: >> >> > 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >> >> > Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> > >> >> > email: [email protected] >> >> > [email protected] >> >> > [email protected] >> >> > Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >> >> > +852 9436 6251 (mobile) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> ********************************************************************** >> >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >> >> >> >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> >> Conservation Officer >> >> >> >> Office: >> >> Orchid Conservation Section >> >> Flora Conservation Department >> >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> >> >> Residence: >> >> 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >> >> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> >> >> email: [email protected] >> >> [email protected] >> >> [email protected] >> >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >> >> +852 9436 6251 (mobile) >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> ********************************************************************** >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> Conservation Officer >> >> Office: >> Orchid Conservation Section >> Flora Conservation Department >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> Residence: >> 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> email: [email protected] >> [email protected] >> [email protected] >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >> +852 9436 6251 (mobile) >> > >
