Sir, May i humbly paste here the links of images of *Ficus* *religiosa* that i recorded in 2009. It is very common plant in West Bengal and from my old records (also seen at the top-right coloumn of the image page) i see that this tree is completely bare by 9th March ( https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/cQC11eQxXUDIpyDndL0lw9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?full-exif=true ). By March 21 it has some foliage - https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/SvqgddPcHiqhopUF06-XNtMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?full-exif=true ...and by 6th April it is covered with mature canopy = https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/8zV_p4mzYyeew81Jf2ILmtMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?full-exif=true Thank you & Regards, Surajit Koley
On Saturday, 14 April 2012 10:14:04 UTC+5:30, Vishnu wrote: > > <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-79Hv0J4R1QM/T4kAeMfpfaI/AAAAAAAAAkE/7aS0f8CRkyk/s1600/Tall+tree-+ficus+or+sapium.jpg> > Thanks Dr. Pankaj, Gargji, Dr. Neil, DR. Vijatasankar. > > Here is a much clearer snap I took just now- hope this helps to do the ID. > Sorry if I imagined the white flowers and threw everyone off track...Does > ficus religiosa completely shed all its leaves during some part of the > year- tree was completely bare in mid March. > > > > On Friday, April 13, 2012 1:31:24 PM UTC+5:30, Dr Pankaj Kumar wrote: >> >> The plant in this thread is not arnottiana. But it is not Sapium either. >> It has to be as simple as Ficus religiosa. >> Pankaj >> >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Neil Soares <drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>wrote: >> >>> Hi Dr. Vijayasankar, >>> My reply is in a separate mail entitled ' Ficus arnottiana trees in >>> new foliage'. >>> With regards, >>> Neil Soares. >>> >>> >>> --- On *Thu, 4/12/12, Vijayasankar <vijay.botan...@gmail.com>* wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Vijayasankar <vijay.botan...@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113376] Tree ID- tall tree behind my >>> apartment >>> To: "Neil Soares" <drneilsoa...@yahoo.com> >>> Cc: "jmgarg1" <jmga...@gmail.com>, "Vishnu" <vishnu.agniho...@gmail.com>, >>> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, narayan....@gmail.com, >>> navendu.p...@gmail.com, giby.kuriak...@gmail.com, varunvarm...@gmail.com, >>> raman_arunacha...@yahoo.com, snmathap...@gmail.com, >>> livewithtr...@gmail.com, ranjin...@gmail.com, swamy.c...@gmail.com, >>> "Dr. Pankaj Kumar" <sahanipan...@gmail.com> >>> Date: Thursday, April 12, 2012, 12:32 AM >>> >>> >>> Thanks Dr. Neil, I may be wrong. But Vishnu ji has also mentioned that >>> he was "...not 100% sure". So, my guess was based only on the available >>> picture :) >>> Details of flowers and close-up pictures should help. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Vijayasankar Raman >>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>> University of Mississippi >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Neil Soares >>> <drneilsoa...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Hi Dr.Vijayasankar, >>> Think you like Dr.Pankaj also missed that it was mentioned that the >>> tree had 'pale white flowers'. >>> With regards, >>> Neil Soares. >>> >>> --- On *Wed, 4/11/12, Vijayasankar >>> <vijay.botan...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vijay.botan...@gmail.com> >>> >* wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Vijayasankar >>> <vijay.botan...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vijay.botan...@gmail.com> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:112359] Tree ID- tall tree behind my >>> apartment >>> To: "jmgarg1" >>> <jmga...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jmga...@gmail.com> >>> > >>> Cc: "Vishnu" >>> <vishnu.agniho...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vishnu.agniho...@gmail.com>>, >>> >>> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, >>> >>> narayan....@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=narayan....@gmail.com>, >>> >>> navendu.p...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=navendu.p...@gmail.com>, >>> >>> giby.kuriak...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=giby.kuriak...@gmail.com>, >>> >>> varunvarm...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=varunvarm...@gmail.com>, >>> >>> raman_arunacha...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=raman_arunacha...@yahoo.com>, >>> >>> snmathap...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=snmathap...@gmail.com>, >>> >>> livewithtr...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=livewithtr...@gmail.com>, >>> >>> ranjin...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ranjin...@gmail.com>, >>> >>> swamy.c...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=swamy.c...@gmail.com>, >>> >>> "Neil Soares" >>> <drneilsoa...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>>, >>> >>> "Dr. Pankaj Kumar" >>> <sahanipan...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sahanipan...@gmail.com> >>> > >>> Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 9:25 PM >>> >>> >>> Ficus arnottiana is my *guess*. The tips of branchlets bear long >>> stipules (?); and fig-like (?) paired sessile structures found in the lower >>> axils. Leaf tips seem to be caudate-acuminate (as seen in the bottom-right >>> corner of the 2nd pic). Sapium has terminal inflorescence. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Vijayasankar Raman >>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>> University of Mississippi >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:51 AM, jmgarg1 >>> <jmga...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jmga...@gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>> >>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>> >>> “The description is not adequate ,but it *could be the Chinese Tallow >>> tree [Sapium sebiferum].* >>> >>> With regards, >>> >>> Neil Soares.” >>> >>> >>> >>> “Thanks for your responses. I checked a couple of sources on sapium >>> sebiferum- one indicated that the tree grows to about 6 m. The one I >>> spotted is over 12 m I think. Also, does the Chinese tallow shed all it's >>> leaves and go completely bare? >>> >>> I will try to see if I can get clearer, larger pictures and share in the >>> next few weeks. >>> Thanks again >>> >>> Vishnu” >>> >>> >>> On 1 April 2012 21:14, Vishnu >>> <vishnu.agniho...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vishnu.agniho...@gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Dear Experts >>> >>> Date:01/04/2012 >>> Location: Cox Town, Bangalore >>> >>> Had seen this tree while I was passing by couple of weeks back- it was >>> completely bare, with only some pale white flowers- as these were quite >>> high and the tree was a bit far away- am not 100% sure. Armed with my >>> camera I went to see the tree again today- was surprised to see that it was >>> full of leaves and the flowers were not be seen any more. What tree is this? >>> >>> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-SrfIet1u3pU/T3hwt3gqZvI/AAAAAAAAAio/7hpAqmhDk_s/s1600/Tall%2Btree-%2Bfairmont%2Btowers-1-web.jpg> >>> >>> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-omSXtCCOy8A/T3hwtKthENI/AAAAAAAAAic/1WevPeyeKxA/s1600/Tall%2Btree-%2Bfairmont%2Btowers-%2Bleaves-web.jpg> >>> >>> Regards >>> Vishnu >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& >>> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged >>> alphabetically & place-wise): >>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use >>> them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: >>> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1840 members >>> & 1,10,000 messages on 31/3/12) or Efloraofindia website: >>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database >>> of more than 6500 species). >>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>> India'. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> ********************************************************************** >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. >> Conservation Officer >> >> Office: >> Orchid Conservation Section >> Flora Conservation Department >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> Residence: >> 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> email: pku...@kbfg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com; >> pankajsah...@rediffmail.com >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 >> (mobile). Fax: +852 2483 7194 >> > > On Friday, April 13, 2012 1:31:24 PM UTC+5:30, Dr Pankaj Kumar wrote: >> >> The plant in this thread is not arnottiana. But it is not Sapium either. >> It has to be as simple as Ficus religiosa. >> Pankaj >> >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Neil Soares <drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>wrote: >> >>> Hi Dr. Vijayasankar, >>> My reply is in a separate mail entitled ' Ficus arnottiana trees in >>> new foliage'. >>> With regards, >>> Neil Soares. >>> >>> >>> --- On *Thu, 4/12/12, Vijayasankar <vijay.botan...@gmail.com>* wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Vijayasankar <vijay.botan...@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113376] Tree ID- tall tree behind my >>> apartment >>> To: "Neil Soares" <drneilsoa...@yahoo.com> >>> Cc: "jmgarg1" <jmga...@gmail.com>, "Vishnu" <vishnu.agniho...@gmail.com>, >>> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, narayan....@gmail.com, >>> navendu.p...@gmail.com, giby.kuriak...@gmail.com, varunvarm...@gmail.com, >>> raman_arunacha...@yahoo.com, snmathap...@gmail.com, >>> livewithtr...@gmail.com, ranjin...@gmail.com, swamy.c...@gmail.com, >>> "Dr. Pankaj Kumar" <sahanipan...@gmail.com> >>> Date: Thursday, April 12, 2012, 12:32 AM >>> >>> >>> Thanks Dr. Neil, I may be wrong. But Vishnu ji has also mentioned that >>> he was "...not 100% sure". So, my guess was based only on the available >>> picture :) >>> Details of flowers and close-up pictures should help. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Vijayasankar Raman >>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>> University of Mississippi >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Neil Soares >>> <drneilsoa...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Hi Dr.Vijayasankar, >>> Think you like Dr.Pankaj also missed that it was mentioned that the >>> tree had 'pale white flowers'. >>> With regards, >>> Neil Soares. >>> >>> --- On *Wed, 4/11/12, Vijayasankar >>> <vijay.botan...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vijay.botan...@gmail.com> >>> >* wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Vijayasankar >>> <vijay.botan...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vijay.botan...@gmail.com> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:112359] Tree ID- tall tree behind my >>> apartment >>> To: "jmgarg1" >>> <jmga...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jmga...@gmail.com> >>> > >>> Cc: "Vishnu" >>> <vishnu.agniho...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vishnu.agniho...@gmail.com>>, >>> >>> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, >>> >>> narayan....@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=narayan....@gmail.com>, >>> >>> navendu.p...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=navendu.p...@gmail.com>, >>> >>> giby.kuriak...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=giby.kuriak...@gmail.com>, >>> >>> varunvarm...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=varunvarm...@gmail.com>, >>> >>> raman_arunacha...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=raman_arunacha...@yahoo.com>, >>> >>> snmathap...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=snmathap...@gmail.com>, >>> >>> livewithtr...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=livewithtr...@gmail.com>, >>> >>> ranjin...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ranjin...@gmail.com>, >>> >>> swamy.c...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=swamy.c...@gmail.com>, >>> >>> "Neil Soares" >>> <drneilsoa...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>>, >>> >>> "Dr. Pankaj Kumar" >>> <sahanipan...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sahanipan...@gmail.com> >>> > >>> Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 9:25 PM >>> >>> >>> Ficus arnottiana is my *guess*. The tips of branchlets bear long >>> stipules (?); and fig-like (?) paired sessile structures found in the lower >>> axils. Leaf tips seem to be caudate-acuminate (as seen in the bottom-right >>> corner of the 2nd pic). Sapium has terminal inflorescence. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Vijayasankar Raman >>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>> University of Mississippi >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:51 AM, jmgarg1 >>> <jmga...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jmga...@gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>> >>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>> >>> “The description is not adequate ,but it *could be the Chinese Tallow >>> tree [Sapium sebiferum].* >>> >>> With regards, >>> >>> Neil Soares.” >>> >>> >>> >>> “Thanks for your responses. I checked a couple of sources on sapium >>> sebiferum- one indicated that the tree grows to about 6 m. The one I >>> spotted is over 12 m I think. Also, does the Chinese tallow shed all it's >>> leaves and go completely bare? >>> >>> I will try to see if I can get clearer, larger pictures and share in the >>> next few weeks. >>> Thanks again >>> >>> Vishnu” >>> >>> >>> On 1 April 2012 21:14, Vishnu >>> <vishnu.agniho...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vishnu.agniho...@gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Dear Experts >>> >>> Date:01/04/2012 >>> Location: Cox Town, Bangalore >>> >>> Had seen this tree while I was passing by couple of weeks back- it was >>> completely bare, with only some pale white flowers- as these were quite >>> high and the tree was a bit far away- am not 100% sure. Armed with my >>> camera I went to see the tree again today- was surprised to see that it was >>> full of leaves and the flowers were not be seen any more. What tree is this? >>> >>> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-SrfIet1u3pU/T3hwt3gqZvI/AAAAAAAAAio/7hpAqmhDk_s/s1600/Tall%2Btree-%2Bfairmont%2Btowers-1-web.jpg> >>> >>> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-omSXtCCOy8A/T3hwtKthENI/AAAAAAAAAic/1WevPeyeKxA/s1600/Tall%2Btree-%2Bfairmont%2Btowers-%2Bleaves-web.jpg> >>> >>> Regards >>> Vishnu >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& >>> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged >>> alphabetically & place-wise): >>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use >>> them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: >>> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1840 members >>> & 1,10,000 messages on 31/3/12) or Efloraofindia website: >>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database >>> of more than 6500 species). >>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>> India'. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> ********************************************************************** >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. >> Conservation Officer >> >> Office: >> Orchid Conservation Section >> Flora Conservation Department >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> Residence: >> 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> email: pku...@kbfg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com; >> pankajsah...@rediffmail.com >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 >> (mobile). Fax: +852 2483 7194 >> >
