Thanks a lot Pankaj ji
I hope members would concentrate to solve puzzle of types based on glands
in India. It would be real job because internet is full of inconsistent
information.


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On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]>wrote:

> Superb Research Gurcharan ji. Thanks.
>
> The Traditional Healers of India divide Terminalia chebula fruits in over
> 30 different types based on type of fruit including Abhya, Chetki etc.
>
> Similarly on the basis of fruit types Bahera i.e. Terminalia bellirica is
> also having tens of types. These types are not mentioned in Taxonomic
> literature, so far.
>
> regards
>
> Pankaj Oudhia
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Satish ji
>> Your note above prompted me to check some literature, and first thing I
>> discovered what you wrote. In Flora of China it is clearly written and
>> illustrated that unlike other species whether glands are generally present
>> at the tip of petiole (or say base of leaf blade) in T. bellirica the two
>> glands are present at about the middle of petiole.
>>
>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=94420&flora_id=2
>>
>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200014745
>>
>> Now coming to the presence of the species in India, The Flora of British
>> India differentiates two varieties (rather three of which we ignore one
>> right now).
>>
>> var: typica (syn: T. eglandulosa) No glands at the apex of petiole
>> var. belerica, two glands at apex of the petiole beneath the leaf
>>
>> unfortunately no mention is made about the places of distribution of two
>> varieties.
>>
>> Faced with this confusion I rushed to the Herbal Garden in Punjabi Bagh
>> (6 km away) and a garden in our area whether this tree grows, and found
>> that there is no trace of any glands any where on the petiole in our area.
>>
>> We should as such be looking at three variants (whether they have any
>> taxonomic status or not be ignored)
>>
>> 1. The common Indian form with no glands at all
>> 2. The form with two glands at the tip of petiole as mentioned in FBI
>> 3. The form with two glands in the middle of petiole as mentioned in
>> Flora of China. It would be interesting to know if this form grows in India
>> also.
>>
>> I also read an old article from Transanctions of Linnaean Society Vol.
>> 17, 1837, a commentary by Hamilton, in which two forms of Bahara (perhaps
>> meaning Baheda) (T. bellirica) are recognised: Greater bahara or Bahara
>> major with larger fruits and Smaller bahara or Bahara minor with smaller
>> fruits, described from Duriapur and Domdoho, respectively (wonder what are
>> these places).
>>
>>
>> http://books.google.co.in/books?id=KBwhAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA159&lpg=PA159&dq=Glands+in+Terminalia+bellirica&source=bl&ots=NFhrgPXI1H&sig=BGIsCB4D-xBKR714AC75LG4cBIg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=1oyST-vCEI3irAeKoL3rBA&sqi=2&ved=0CEwQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=Glands%20in%20Terminalia%20bellirica&f=false
>>
>> Perhaps some one can throw some more light on this important medicinal
>> plant of India.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> Retired  Associate Professor
>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Satish Phadke <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Yesterday I happen to attend a slideshow/presentation where a
>>> botanist(Not active on Net) showed a series of Terminalia leaves from
>>> different species. She had tried to document the differences and
>>> characteristics of glands indifferent individual species. What I learnt was
>>> T. bellerica often has glands which are not at the base of the leaves but
>>> in the petiole itself which appears slightly swollen midway in its length.
>>> It stimulated my curiosity which made me write yesterday's request to
>>> Surajit.This is something different than what Neil ji's observations. When
>>> I checked elsewhere in whatever data available to me what I got is No
>>> glands in T. bellerica. I will check with her again and if possible will
>>> try to collect those pictures for opinion.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Vijayasankar Raman (Google Docs) <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  [image: Document] I've shared Terminalia bellirica page from 
>>>> FPB<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpgVclesA4TroBoOy1jaCFx6vq3Y9C5xAfAIRx_gEBA/edit>
>>>>  Click to open:
>>>>
>>>>    - Terminalia bellirica page from 
>>>> FPB<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpgVclesA4TroBoOy1jaCFx6vq3Y9C5xAfAIRx_gEBA/edit>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Terminalia belli(e)rica page from Cooke’s Flora of Presidency of
>>>> Bombay_Vol. 1
>>>>
>>>> (line 8 in the description para).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Google Docs makes it easy to create, store and share online documents,
>>>> spreadsheets and presentations.
>>>> [image: Logo for Google Docs] <https://docs.google.com>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr Satish Phadke
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

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