Same plant Dinesh ji - no doubt. We will take the elevation to be 1350 ft asl - as I know you were better 'armed'.
Regards, Samir Mehta On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:24:38 PM UTC+5:30, Dinesh Valke wrote: > > Samir ji, many thanks for posting this plant. > Thanks to all: Samir ji, Radha ji and Dr Robert for the ID. > > My sighting of the *same* plant: > *Place*: along the trail - opening to Prabal Machi, about 1380 ft asl > *Time*: 8 JUL 2012 and 11 JUL 2010 > > > *8 JUL 2012* > . > [image: Gymnosporia puberula > M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7543827364%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzexIYeQ4as14cTJ0SdmJ-E7EMXgMQ> > . > [image: Gymnosporia puberula > M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7543845780%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzd2keR8oHgkX-clO7BEXDn5kbMtyg> > [image: > Gymnosporia puberula > M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7543840804%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfBEq_ZQtmeEvig7uIOyhCWpyo3yg> > [image: > Gymnosporia puberula > M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7543822564%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfAza-omAgAm2eTcdde_BqbvciLLQ> > [image: > Gymnosporia puberula > M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7543831662%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcTi_va5sv3bW9eqM5F0NpfIJGH2A> > [image: > Gymnosporia puberula > M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7543835578%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzezEhfImkRDq__pqYs49x54T94mLQ> > [image: > Gymnosporia puberula > M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7543850830%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfqiPVFmrlpbF5dQPQIEk1RoW9uWA> > > > *11 JUL 2010* > . > [image: Gymnosporia puberula > M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4789692095%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfhAVYrmRd2n58xluo3ExKspCDGhQ> > [image: > Gymnosporia puberula > M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4790317810%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfKsVTc2acDcqXZpE6FfvHcz5ic9Q> > [image: > Gymnosporia puberula > M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4790331284%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcb1qL3WiWZ9ZX3MPEWU_qSUs-DIA> > [image: > Gymnosporia puberula > M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4790312046%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfGbdhT5d_GE5gfoTd9cPfpo7txLA> > > > > Regards. > Dinesh > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Rohit Patel <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear All, >> >> >> Please clarify me about the Maytenus emeginata (Gymnosporia montana) >> occurance in india. >> >> regads >> >> >> Rohit >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Robert H. Archer >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Dear Mahta, Garg ji**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> I confirmed this with Ms Jordaan, the authority on the genus >>> Gymnosporia. This is definitely a good species but it should be listed as >>> Gymnosporia puberula M.A.Lawson. It looks very different from Gymnosporia >>> senegalensis. According to a number of studies it is now very clear there >>> is no species of Maytenus in India or anywhere else but South America. * >>> *** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> With best wishes, Robert**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Dr. Robert H. Archer**** >>> >>> Biodiversity Scientist **** >>> >>> National Herbarium; South African National Biodiversity Institute**** >>> >>> P. 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My field id was Maytenus sp.**** >>> >>> I am still open to correction provided a logical reason is given.**** >>> >>> Trust that answers your query.**** >>> >>> Regards,**** >>> >>> Samir Mehta”**** >>> >>> >>> **** >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: *Samir Mehta* <[email protected]> >>> Date: 8 July 2012 20:20 >>> Subject: [efloraofindia:121544] Maytenus puberula (M.A.Lawson) Loes. @ >>> Prabalgad 01-07-2012 >>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Dear Fellow Group-Members, >>> >>> Got a chance to go to Prabalgad with a trekking group, had wanted to go >>> there for a long time, after seeing Prasant ji's posts from that area. As >>> was to be expected, it was more of a trek than a flower watching trip - and >>> a difficult one too. >>> >>> Spotted this large unarmed shrub just short of Prabal machi, about ? >>> 1000 ft asl, the lower surface of the leaf had hairs on the veins (cannot >>> remember whether they were hispid or puberulous); flower size was >>> approx.1cm. >>> >>> There seems to be some confusion in the taxonomic nomenclature >>> (unresolved in the plant list and not listed at ARS-GRIN and FoC or Fl >>> Pakistan). >>> The id is based on Fl. 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