Fantastic. Good to see the ID getting resolved. Thanks Samir ji and Dinesh for sharing this plant with all of us. New to me. Regards Prashant
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Samir Mehta <[email protected]> wrote: > Same plant Dinesh ji - no doubt. > We will take the elevation to be 1350 ft asl - as I know you were better > 'armed'. > > Regards, > > Samir Mehta > > > > On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:24:38 PM UTC+5:30, Dinesh Valke wrote: >> >> Samir ji, many thanks for posting this plant. >> Thanks to all: Samir ji, Radha ji and Dr Robert for the ID. >> >> My sighting of the *same* plant: >> *Place*: along the trail - opening to Prabal Machi, about 1380 ft asl >> *Time*: 8 JUL 2012 and 11 JUL 2010 >> >> >> *8 JUL 2012* >> . >> [image: Gymnosporia puberula >> M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7543827364%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzexIYeQ4as14cTJ0SdmJ-E7EMXgMQ> >> . >> [image: Gymnosporia puberula >> M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7543845780%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzd2keR8oHgkX-clO7BEXDn5kbMtyg> >> [image: >> Gymnosporia puberula >> M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7543840804%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfBEq_ZQtmeEvig7uIOyhCWpyo3yg> >> [image: >> Gymnosporia puberula >> M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7543822564%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfAza-omAgAm2eTcdde_BqbvciLLQ> >> [image: >> Gymnosporia puberula >> M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7543831662%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcTi_va5sv3bW9eqM5F0NpfIJGH2A> >> [image: >> Gymnosporia puberula >> M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7543835578%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzezEhfImkRDq__pqYs49x54T94mLQ> >> [image: >> Gymnosporia puberula >> M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7543850830%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfqiPVFmrlpbF5dQPQIEk1RoW9uWA> >> >> >> *11 JUL 2010* >> . >> [image: Gymnosporia puberula >> M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4789692095%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfhAVYrmRd2n58xluo3ExKspCDGhQ> >> [image: >> Gymnosporia puberula >> M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4790317810%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfKsVTc2acDcqXZpE6FfvHcz5ic9Q> >> [image: >> Gymnosporia puberula >> M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4790331284%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcb1qL3WiWZ9ZX3MPEWU_qSUs-DIA> >> [image: >> Gymnosporia puberula >> M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4790312046%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfGbdhT5d_GE5gfoTd9cPfpo7txLA> >> >> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Rohit Patel <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> >>> Please clarify me about the Maytenus emeginata (Gymnosporia montana) >>> occurance in india. >>> >>> regads >>> >>> >>> Rohit >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Robert H. Archer <[email protected] >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Mahta, Garg ji**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> I confirmed this with Ms Jordaan, the authority on the genus >>>> Gymnosporia. This is definitely a good species but it should be listed as >>>> Gymnosporia puberula M.A.Lawson. It looks very different from Gymnosporia >>>> senegalensis. According to a number of studies it is now very clear there >>>> is no species of Maytenus in India or anywhere else but South America. >>>> **** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> With best wishes, Robert**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Dr. Robert H. Archer**** >>>> >>>> Biodiversity Scientist **** >>>> >>>> National Herbarium; South African National Biodiversity Institute**** >>>> >>>> P. 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Archer; [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>> Samir Mehta >>>> *Subject:* Fwd: [efloraofindia:121544] Maytenus puberula (M.A.Lawson) >>>> Loes. @ Prabalgad 01-07-2012**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.**** >>>> >>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: **** >>>> >>>> “Dr Mahta, >>>> Why not Maytenus senegalensis ?” from Rajesh ji.**** >>>> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> “That's one of the things I considered Rajesh ji,but* according to the >>>> keys Maytenus senegalensis is an 'armed' plant plus what really was >>>> decisive was the hair on the veins below, both FoM & FBI mention it, though >>>> the latter calls it puberulous and the former hispid. ** >>>> *I will also like to point out that certain features [in this case - >>>> hair on the leaf under-surface] are missed in the field & appreciated only >>>> on post-processing. My field id was Maytenus sp.**** >>>> >>>> I am still open to correction provided a logical reason is given.**** >>>> >>>> Trust that answers your query.**** >>>> >>>> Regards,**** >>>> >>>> Samir Mehta”**** >>>> >>>> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: *Samir Mehta* <[email protected]> >>>> Date: 8 July 2012 20:20 >>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:121544] Maytenus puberula (M.A.Lawson) Loes. @ >>>> Prabalgad 01-07-2012 >>>> To: efloraofindia >>>> <indiantreepix@googlegroups.**com<[email protected]> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Fellow Group-Members, >>>> >>>> Got a chance to go to Prabalgad with a trekking group, had wanted to go >>>> there for a long time, after seeing Prasant ji's posts from that area. As >>>> was to be expected, it was more of a trek than a flower watching trip - and >>>> a difficult one too. >>>> >>>> Spotted this large unarmed shrub just short of Prabal machi, about ? >>>> 1000 ft asl, the lower surface of the leaf had hairs on the veins (cannot >>>> remember whether they were hispid or puberulous); flower size was >>>> approx.1cm. >>>> >>>> There seems to be some confusion in the taxonomic nomenclature >>>> (unresolved in the plant list and not listed at ARS-GRIN and FoC or Fl >>>> Pakistan). >>>> The id is based on Fl. Maharashtra 1:241 & 243, but here flowering >>>> season is given as Dec-Jan, needs to be checked and FBI 1:619. >>>> The shrub is not listed in Shrikant ji's Flowers of Sahyadri or Further >>>> Flowers of Sahyadri and no image of it was available for comparison in >>>> the group database or on the net. >>>> >>>> Will appreciate if this post can be validated. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- **** >>>> >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg**** >>>> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**User:Jmgarg1<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species >>>> * & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged >>>> alphabetically & place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/** >>>> wiki/Category:J.M.Garg<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg>. >>>> You >>>> can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached >>>> with each image.**** >>>> >>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: >>>> http://groups.google.co.in/**group/indiantreepix<http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix>(more >>>> than 1900 members & 1,20,700 messages on 30/6/12) or Efloraofindia >>>> website: >>>> https://sites.google.com/site/**efloraofindia/<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> >>>> (with >>>> a species database of more than 7000 species).**** >>>> >>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>>> India'. **** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> VISIT OUR NEW WEBSITE ----BIODIVERSITY ADVISOR---- ON >>>> HTTP://BIODIVERSITYADVISOR.**SANBI.ORG/<HTTP://BIODIVERSITYADVISOR.SANBI.ORG/> >>>> >>>> Think before you print. 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