Thank You Prashant ji; Once again I reiterate that it was your posts from Prabalgad that encouraged me to go there. Look forward to doing some flower-watching trips with you and Dinesh ji.
Regards, Samir Mehta On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 10:18:06 PM UTC+5:30, Prashant wrote: > > Fantastic. Good to see the ID getting resolved. Thanks Samir ji and Dinesh > for sharing this plant with all of us. New to me. > Regards > Prashant > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Samir Mehta <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Same plant Dinesh ji - no doubt. >> We will take the elevation to be 1350 ft asl - as I know you were better >> 'armed'. >> >> Regards, >> >> Samir Mehta >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:24:38 PM UTC+5:30, Dinesh Valke wrote: >>> >>> Samir ji, many thanks for posting this plant. >>> Thanks to all: Samir ji, Radha ji and Dr Robert for the ID. >>> >>> My sighting of the *same* plant: >>> *Place*: along the trail - opening to Prabal Machi, about 1380 ft asl >>> *Time*: 8 JUL 2012 and 11 JUL 2010 >>> >>> >>> *8 JUL 2012* >>> . >>> [image: Gymnosporia puberula >>> M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7543827364%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzexIYeQ4as14cTJ0SdmJ-E7EMXgMQ> >>> . >>> [image: Gymnosporia puberula >>> M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7543845780%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzd2keR8oHgkX-clO7BEXDn5kbMtyg> >>> [image: >>> Gymnosporia puberula >>> M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7543840804%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfBEq_ZQtmeEvig7uIOyhCWpyo3yg> >>> [image: >>> Gymnosporia puberula >>> M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7543822564%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfAza-omAgAm2eTcdde_BqbvciLLQ> >>> [image: >>> Gymnosporia puberula >>> M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7543831662%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcTi_va5sv3bW9eqM5F0NpfIJGH2A> >>> [image: >>> Gymnosporia puberula >>> M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7543835578%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzezEhfImkRDq__pqYs49x54T94mLQ> >>> [image: >>> Gymnosporia puberula >>> M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7543850830%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfqiPVFmrlpbF5dQPQIEk1RoW9uWA> >>> >>> >>> *11 JUL 2010* >>> . >>> [image: Gymnosporia puberula >>> M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4789692095%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfhAVYrmRd2n58xluo3ExKspCDGhQ> >>> [image: >>> Gymnosporia puberula >>> M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4790317810%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfKsVTc2acDcqXZpE6FfvHcz5ic9Q> >>> [image: >>> Gymnosporia puberula >>> M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4790331284%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcb1qL3WiWZ9ZX3MPEWU_qSUs-DIA> >>> [image: >>> Gymnosporia puberula >>> M.A.Lawson]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4790312046%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfGbdhT5d_GE5gfoTd9cPfpo7txLA> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Rohit Patel <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Dear All, >>>> >>>> >>>> Please clarify me about the Maytenus emeginata (Gymnosporia montana) >>>> occurance in india. >>>> >>>> regads >>>> >>>> >>>> Rohit >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Robert H. Archer < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Mahta, Garg ji**** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> I confirmed this with Ms Jordaan, the authority on the genus >>>>> Gymnosporia. This is definitely a good species but it should be listed as >>>>> Gymnosporia puberula M.A.Lawson. It looks very different from Gymnosporia >>>>> senegalensis. According to a number of studies it is now very clear there >>>>> is no species of Maytenus in India or anywhere else but South America. >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> With best wishes, Robert**** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> Dr. Robert H. Archer**** >>>>> >>>>> Biodiversity Scientist **** >>>>> >>>>> National Herbarium; South African National Biodiversity Institute**** >>>>> >>>>> P. 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Archer; [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>>> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>>> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>>> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>>> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>>> [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>>> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>>> [email protected]; Samir Mehta >>>>> *Subject:* Fwd: [efloraofindia:121544] Maytenus puberula (M.A.Lawson) >>>>> Loes. @ Prabalgad 01-07-2012**** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.**** >>>>> >>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: **** >>>>> >>>>> “Dr Mahta, >>>>> Why not Maytenus senegalensis ?” from Rajesh ji.**** >>>>> >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> “That's one of the things I considered Rajesh ji,but* according to >>>>> the keys Maytenus senegalensis is an 'armed' plant plus what really was >>>>> decisive was the hair on the veins below, both FoM & FBI mention it, >>>>> though >>>>> the latter calls it puberulous and the former hispid. ** >>>>> *I will also like to point out that certain features [in this case - >>>>> hair on the leaf under-surface] are missed in the field & appreciated >>>>> only >>>>> on post-processing. My field id was Maytenus sp.**** >>>>> >>>>> I am still open to correction provided a logical reason is given.**** >>>>> >>>>> Trust that answers your query.**** >>>>> >>>>> Regards,**** >>>>> >>>>> Samir Mehta”**** >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>> From: *Samir Mehta* <[email protected]> >>>>> Date: 8 July 2012 20:20 >>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:121544] Maytenus puberula (M.A.Lawson) Loes. @ >>>>> Prabalgad 01-07-2012 >>>>> To: efloraofindia >>>>> <indiantreepix@googlegroups.**com<[email protected]> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear Fellow Group-Members, >>>>> >>>>> Got a chance to go to Prabalgad with a trekking group, had wanted to >>>>> go there for a long time, after seeing Prasant ji's posts from that area. >>>>> As was to be expected, it was more of a trek than a flower watching trip >>>>> - >>>>> and a difficult one too. >>>>> >>>>> Spotted this large unarmed shrub just short of Prabal machi, about ? >>>>> 1000 ft asl, the lower surface of the leaf had hairs on the veins (cannot >>>>> remember whether they were hispid or puberulous); flower size was >>>>> approx.1cm. >>>>> >>>>> There seems to be some confusion in the taxonomic nomenclature >>>>> (unresolved in the plant list and not listed at ARS-GRIN and FoC or Fl >>>>> Pakistan). >>>>> The id is based on Fl. 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