To check further Sempervivum montanum has leaves hairy on surface, S. tectorum leaves are totally glabrous. both have 10-20 petals and twice as many stamens as against only 5 calyx and corolla lobes and 10 stamen in Echeveria.
-- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > Aarti ji if you look at leaves in Echeveria elegans the leaves are almost > rounded with no cusp at tip, whereas in Sempervivum montanum the leaves > are oblanceolate the tips cuspidate. The real differences are in flowers: > > Echeveria: Corolla gamopetalous (petals united at base), corolla lobes > thick and fleshy, stamens 10 > Sempervivum: petals free, not thick, stamens more than 10 > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Gurcharan ji, Garg ji, Usha di, >> I am confused. >> Similar looking succulent which I have photographed before in a Nasik >> nursery and which is on flowersofindia.net site has been identified as >> Echeveria elegans, common names Mexican Snowball, Hen and Chicks. >> How do you differentiate between Echeveria and Sempervivum? >> For a non botanist like me, both look the same. >> Regards, >> Aarti >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Most likely Sempervivum montanum >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 10:44 PM, jmgarg1 <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, Aarti ji, >>>> What is the bot. name ? >>>> >>>> On 24 October 2012 20:02, Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Usha di, >>>>> Thanks for the id. >>>>> Now I recollect, I have photographed this before in a nursery in Nasik. >>>>> My picture is on 'Flowersofindia' site. >>>>> Thanks for reminding me. >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Aarti >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 4:41 PM, ushadi Micromini < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> yes >>>>>> called hens and chicks... as in mother and kids >>>>>> usha di >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Aarti S. Khale < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> A small ornamental, succulent seen at Pahalgam on 7/9/2011. >>>>>>> Echeveria species? >>>>>>> Aarti >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Usha di >>>>>> =========== >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species >>>> * & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged >>>> alphabetically & place-wise): >>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use >>>> them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: >>>> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1980 members >>>> & 1,33,000 messages on 30/9/12) or Efloraofindia website: >>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database >>>> of more than 7500 species). >>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>>> India'. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > --
