Aarti and Gurcharanji: Yes and more
at least at my level of knowledge, I like to have the flowers to look at and dissect... these two... echeveria and sempervivum can be difficult.. yet in California and american southwest area nurseries thety are both get labelled as hens and chicks and that's what I was getting at ...earlier... I wish you had this plant in hand to answer our questions.. Usha di On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > To check further Sempervivum montanum has leaves hairy on surface, S. > tectorum leaves are totally glabrous. both have 10-20 petals and twice as > many stamens as against only 5 calyx and corolla lobes and 10 stamen in > Echeveria. > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Aarti ji if you look at leaves in Echeveria elegans the leaves are almost >> rounded with no cusp at tip, whereas in Sempervivum montanum the leaves >> are oblanceolate the tips cuspidate. The real differences are in flowers: >> >> Echeveria: Corolla gamopetalous (petals united at base), corolla lobes >> thick and fleshy, stamens 10 >> Sempervivum: petals free, not thick, stamens more than 10 >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Aarti S. Khale >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Gurcharan ji, Garg ji, Usha di, >>> I am confused. >>> Similar looking succulent which I have photographed before in a Nasik >>> nursery and which is on flowersofindia.net site has been identified as >>> Echeveria elegans, common names Mexican Snowball, Hen and Chicks. >>> How do you differentiate between Echeveria and Sempervivum? >>> For a non botanist like me, both look the same. >>> Regards, >>> Aarti >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Most likely Sempervivum montanum >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 10:44 PM, jmgarg1 <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, Aarti ji, >>>>> What is the bot. name ? >>>>> >>>>> On 24 October 2012 20:02, Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Usha di, >>>>>> Thanks for the id. >>>>>> Now I recollect, I have photographed this before in a nursery in >>>>>> Nasik. >>>>>> My picture is on 'Flowersofindia' site. >>>>>> Thanks for reminding me. >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Aarti >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 4:41 PM, ushadi Micromini < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> yes >>>>>>> called hens and chicks... as in mother and kids >>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Aarti S. Khale < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A small ornamental, succulent seen at Pahalgam on 7/9/2011. >>>>>>>> Echeveria species? >>>>>>>> Aarti >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand >>>>> species* & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): >>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use >>>>> them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image >>>>> . >>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: >>>>> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1980 >>>>> members & 1,33,000 messages on 30/9/12) or Efloraofindia website: >>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database >>>>> of more than 7500 species). >>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>>>> India'. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > -- Usha di =========== --
