Usha di, Both seem to share a common name 'Hen & Chicks' Aarti On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:50 PM, ushadi Micromini <[email protected] > wrote:
> Aarti and Gurcharanji: > > Yes and more > > at least at my level of knowledge, I like to have the flowers to look at > and dissect... > these two... echeveria and sempervivum can be difficult.. > yet > in California and american southwest area nurseries thety are both get > labelled as hens and chicks and that's what I was getting at ...earlier... > > I wish you had this plant in hand to answer our questions.. > Usha di > > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > >> To check further Sempervivum montanum has leaves hairy on surface, S. >> tectorum leaves are totally glabrous. both have 10-20 petals and twice as >> many stamens as against only 5 calyx and corolla lobes and 10 stamen in >> Echeveria. >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Aarti ji if you look at leaves in Echeveria elegans the leaves are >>> almost rounded with no cusp at tip, whereas in Sempervivum montanum the >>> leaves are oblanceolate the tips cuspidate. The real differences are in >>> flowers: >>> >>> Echeveria: Corolla gamopetalous (petals united at base), corolla lobes >>> thick and fleshy, stamens 10 >>> Sempervivum: petals free, not thick, stamens more than 10 >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Aarti S. Khale >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Gurcharan ji, Garg ji, Usha di, >>>> I am confused. >>>> Similar looking succulent which I have photographed before in a Nasik >>>> nursery and which is on flowersofindia.net site has been identified as >>>> Echeveria elegans, common names Mexican Snowball, Hen and Chicks. >>>> How do you differentiate between Echeveria and Sempervivum? >>>> For a non botanist like me, both look the same. >>>> Regards, >>>> Aarti >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Gurcharan Singh >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Most likely Sempervivum montanum >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 10:44 PM, jmgarg1 <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, Aarti ji, >>>>>> What is the bot. name ? >>>>>> >>>>>> On 24 October 2012 20:02, Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Usha di, >>>>>>> Thanks for the id. >>>>>>> Now I recollect, I have photographed this before in a nursery in >>>>>>> Nasik. >>>>>>> My picture is on 'Flowersofindia' site. >>>>>>> Thanks for reminding me. >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Aarti >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 4:41 PM, ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> yes >>>>>>>> called hens and chicks... as in mother and kids >>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Aarti S. Khale < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A small ornamental, succulent seen at Pahalgam on 7/9/2011. >>>>>>>>> Echeveria species? >>>>>>>>> Aarti >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand >>>>>> species* & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): >>>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also >>>>>> use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each >>>>>> image. >>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: >>>>>> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1980 >>>>>> members & 1,33,000 messages on 30/9/12) or Efloraofindia website: >>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species >>>>>> database of more than 7500 species). >>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds >>>>>> of India'. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > -- > Usha di > =========== > > --
