Neil ji, ... the plant in Vijayasankar ji's post is same as posted plant, and what is being discussed here. Cannot miss the characteristic hard-veined leaflets. Your plants too, are same. Thus Dr. Almeida & Santosh Yadav ji are correct in their diagnosis.
My turn to seek apologies, please accept. And now I need to correct my notes at flickr photostream as well request Tabish to remove my photo for the ID at FOI ... http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Horse%20Bush.html Many thanks to you for pointing to Vijayasankar ji's post and to Radha for validating this ID. Regards. Dinesh On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 6:02 PM, radha veach <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, I saw this post. The same plant, with very immature fruit. > Radha > > > On 26 November 2012 17:58, Neil Soares <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi, >> Please check this post by Dr. Vijayasankar : >> >> >> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!search/Dendrolobium$20triangulare$20Vijayasankar/indiantreepix/SGV5pF-e2dA/Sdg_0HVLJHYJ >> >> The tree in question here & my plants surely don't look similar to this. >> >> With regards, >> Neil Soares. >> >> --- On *Mon, 11/26/12, radhaveach <[email protected]>* wrote: >> >> >> From: radhaveach <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:139154] Tree for ID : Pali,Maharashtra : >> 251112 : AK-2 >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: "radhaveach" <[email protected]>, "Dinesh Valke" < >> [email protected]>, "Prasad Dash" <[email protected]>, >> "Nidhan Singh" <[email protected]>, "Krushnamegh Kunte" < >> [email protected]>, "renee vyas Vyas" <[email protected]> >> Date: Monday, November 26, 2012, 2:37 PM >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> I don't have access to my pics now as I"m away. >> Have a look at this and see what you think. Also read up the leaf >> characters in the floras. >> >> http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/Desmodium_umbellatum.htm >> >> best >> Radha >> >> On Monday, November 26, 2012 1:01:05 PM UTC+5:30, Neil wrote: >> >> Hi, >> Don't think so. According to Dr. Almeida's 'Flora of Maharashtra', the >> pods of D. triangulare are 2 - 2.5 cms. long, slightly curved, indented on >> both sutures, more deeply on the lower one, joints 3 - 6, as broad as long, >> slightly pubescent. Whereas in D. umbellatum the pods are 4 - 5 cms. long, >> sparsely silky when young, glabrous when ripe, thick and coriaceous, almost >> turgid, not reticulately veined, indented on both sutures, joints 4 = 5 >> [usually 4], 8-6 cm [?]. >> >> Also whereas D. triangulare is a shrub, D. umbellatum is described as a >> bushy shrub [ocassionally growing to be a small tree]. >> >> Therefore feel that the tree in question here is D. umbellatum. >> >> With regards, >> Neil Soares. >> >> >> --- On *Mon, 11/26/12, radhaveach <[email protected]>* wrote: >> >> >> From: radhaveach <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:139131] Tree for ID : Pali,Maharashtra : >> 251112 : AK-2 >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: "Dinesh Valke" <[email protected]>, "Neil Soares" < >> [email protected]>, "Prasad Dash" <[email protected]>, "Nidhan >> Singh" <[email protected]>, "Krushnamegh Kunte" < >> [email protected]>, "renee vyas Vyas" <[email protected]> >> Date: Monday, November 26, 2012, 8:43 AM >> >> Hello, >> to me it is clearly Desmodium triangulare as first stated by Neil. >> The leaves of the 2 plants are quite different. Sorry to add to the >> confusion! >> >> best >> Radha >> >> On Monday, November 26, 2012 7:28:42 AM UTC+5:30, Aarti S. Khale wrote: >> >> Neil ji, Dinesh ji >> Thanks from me too for giving me the correct id. >> Regards, >> Aarti >> >> On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> Many thanks Neil ji for resolving the ID. >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Neil Soares <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Went through the literature and Dr. Almeida's 'Flora of Maharashtra'. >> Agree with Dinesh Valke & Prasad Dash. This is Desmodium umbellatum >> [previously Dendrolobium umbellatum]. >> >> Have plenty of these plants on my property at Shahapur. This was >> identified by Dr. Almeida & his associate Santosh Yadav on a visit to my >> property on the 12th of August 2007 as Desmodium triangulare as also stated >> by me in this correspondence : >> >> https://groups.google.com/ forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#! search/Desmodium$ >> 20triangulare$20Neil$20Soares/ wildflowerindia/rwTNMcHRsi0/ >> dP52UN_ir1AJ<https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#%21search/Desmodium$20triangulare$20Neil$20Soares/wildflowerindia/rwTNMcHRsi0/dP52UN_ir1AJ> >> >> Presumably their diagnosis was based only on observing the plants, as >> [from my records over the last few years] flowering occurs in Sept. & Oct., >> whereas it fruits between Oct. to Dec. >> >> It is therefore likely that Dr. Almeida & Santosh Yadav erred in their >> diagnosis. >> >> My apologies to all and to Krushnameg Kunte [to whom I am also forwarding >> this mail]. >> >> Sending a few of my photographs. >> >> With regards, >> Neil Soares. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- On *Sun, 11/25/12, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>* wrote: >> >> >> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:139081] Tree for ID : Pali,Maharashtra : >> 251112 : AK-2 >> To: "Aarti S. Khale" <[email protected]> >> Cc: "Prasad Dash" <[email protected]>, "Nidhan Singh" < >> [email protected]>, "Neil Soares" <[email protected]>, >> "efloraofindia" <indian...@googlegroups. com> >> Date: Sunday, November 25, 2012, 7:40 PM >> >> >> To me it is *Dendrolobium umbellatum*, the horse bush ... locally known >> as पांढरा चिकटा pandhra chikta. >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Aarti S. Khale >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc1601.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> Prasad ji, >> Thanks. I will. >> >> Neil ji, >> Forgot to add earlier, thanks for the link. >> >> Regards to all, >> Aarti >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Prasad Dash >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc1601.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> Please also check Dendrolobium umbellatum. Just have second thought. >> >> Regards >> >> Prasad >> >> On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Aarti S. Khale >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc1601.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> Nidhan ji, >> >> I think you were writing to me same time, as I was replying to Neil ji. >> Thanks for your encouraging words. >> Regards, >> Aarti >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Nidhan Singh >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc1601.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> Thanks Aarti Ji for upload and Neil Ji for identification...I am yet to >> see this.. >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Dr. Nidhan Singh >> Assisstant Professor >> Department of Botany >> I.B. (PG) College >> Panipat-132103 Haryana >> Ph.: 09416371227 >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Prasad Kumar Dash >> Ecologist, Odisha, India >> email: >> [email protected]<http://us.mc1601.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> ph. 09437444241 >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> > --
