Thanks Dinesh. Fair enough. The only thing that bothers me is the size of the fruit. Maybe Dr. Vijayasankar could give us his opinion. Also Prasad Dash may have some photographs to share with us. With regards, Neil Soares.
--- On Mon, 11/26/12, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:139154] Tree for ID : Pali,Maharashtra : 251112 : AK-2 To: "radha veach" <[email protected]> Cc: "Neil Soares" <[email protected]>, "efloraofindia" <[email protected]>, "Prasad Dash" <[email protected]>, "Nidhan Singh" <[email protected]>, "renee vyas Vyas" <[email protected]>, "Tabish Qureshi" <[email protected]> Date: Monday, November 26, 2012, 6:38 PM Neil ji, ... the plant in Vijayasankar ji's post is same as posted plant, and what is being discussed here. Cannot miss the characteristic hard-veined leaflets. Your plants too, are same. Thus Dr. Almeida & Santosh Yadav ji are correct in their diagnosis. My turn to seek apologies, please accept. And now I need to correct my notes at flickr photostream as well request Tabish to remove my photo for the ID at FOI ... http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Horse%20Bush.html Many thanks to you for pointing to Vijayasankar ji's post and to Radha for validating this ID. Regards. Dinesh On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 6:02 PM, radha veach <[email protected]> wrote: Yes, I saw this post. The same plant, with very immature fruit. Radha On 26 November 2012 17:58, Neil Soares <[email protected]> wrote: Hi, Please check this post by Dr. Vijayasankar : https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!search/Dendrolobium$20triangulare$20Vijayasankar/indiantreepix/SGV5pF-e2dA/Sdg_0HVLJHYJ The tree in question here & my plants surely don't look similar to this. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On Mon, 11/26/12, radhaveach <[email protected]> wrote: From: radhaveach <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:139154] Tree for ID : Pali,Maharashtra : 251112 : AK-2 To: [email protected] Cc: "radhaveach" <[email protected]>, "Dinesh Valke" <[email protected]>, "Prasad Dash" <[email protected]>, "Nidhan Singh" <[email protected]>, "Krushnamegh Kunte" <[email protected]>, "renee vyas Vyas" <[email protected]> Date: Monday, November 26, 2012, 2:37 PM Hi everyone, I don't have access to my pics now as I"m away. Have a look at this and see what you think. Also read up the leaf characters in the floras. http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/Desmodium_umbellatum.htm best Radha On Monday, November 26, 2012 1:01:05 PM UTC+5:30, Neil wrote: Hi, Don't think so. According to Dr. Almeida's 'Flora of Maharashtra', the pods of D. triangulare are 2 - 2.5 cms. long, slightly curved, indented on both sutures, more deeply on the lower one, joints 3 - 6, as broad as long, slightly pubescent. Whereas in D. umbellatum the pods are 4 - 5 cms. long, sparsely silky when young, glabrous when ripe, thick and coriaceous, almost turgid, not reticulately veined, indented on both sutures, joints 4 = 5 [usually 4], 8-6 cm [?]. Also whereas D. triangulare is a shrub, D. umbellatum is described as a bushy shrub [ocassionally growing to be a small tree]. Therefore feel that the tree in question here is D. umbellatum. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On Mon, 11/26/12, radhaveach <[email protected]> wrote: From: radhaveach <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:139131] Tree for ID : Pali,Maharashtra : 251112 : AK-2 To: [email protected] Cc: "Dinesh Valke" <[email protected]>, "Neil Soares" <[email protected]>, "Prasad Dash" <[email protected]>, "Nidhan Singh" <[email protected]>, "Krushnamegh Kunte" <[email protected]>, "renee vyas Vyas" <[email protected]> Date: Monday, November 26, 2012, 8:43 AM Hello, to me it is clearly Desmodium triangulare as first stated by Neil. The leaves of the 2 plants are quite different. Sorry to add to the confusion! best Radha On Monday, November 26, 2012 7:28:42 AM UTC+5:30, Aarti S. Khale wrote: Neil ji, Dinesh ji Thanks from me too for giving me the correct id. Regards, Aarti On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: Many thanks Neil ji for resolving the ID. Regards. Dinesh On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Neil Soares <[email protected]> wrote: Hi, Went through the literature and Dr. Almeida's 'Flora of Maharashtra'. Agree with Dinesh Valke & Prasad Dash. This is Desmodium umbellatum [previously Dendrolobium umbellatum]. Have plenty of these plants on my property at Shahapur. This was identified by Dr. Almeida & his associate Santosh Yadav on a visit to my property on the 12th of August 2007 as Desmodium triangulare as also stated by me in this correspondence : https://groups.google.com/ forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#! search/Desmodium$ 20triangulare$20Neil$20Soares/ wildflowerindia/rwTNMcHRsi0/ dP52UN_ir1AJ Presumably their diagnosis was based only on observing the plants, as [from my records over the last few years] flowering occurs in Sept. & Oct., whereas it fruits between Oct. to Dec. It is therefore likely that Dr. Almeida & Santosh Yadav erred in their diagnosis. My apologies to all and to Krushnameg Kunte [to whom I am also forwarding this mail]. Sending a few of my photographs. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On Sun, 11/25/12, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:139081] Tree for ID : Pali,Maharashtra : 251112 : AK-2 To: "Aarti S. Khale" <[email protected]> Cc: "Prasad Dash" <[email protected]>, "Nidhan Singh" <[email protected]>, "Neil Soares" <[email protected]>, "efloraofindia" <indian...@googlegroups. com> Date: Sunday, November 25, 2012, 7:40 PM To me it is Dendrolobium umbellatum, the horse bush ... locally known as पांढरा चिकटा pandhra chikta. Regards. Dinesh On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]> wrote: Prasad ji, Thanks. I will. Neil ji, Forgot to add earlier, thanks for the link. Regards to all, Aarti On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Prasad Dash <[email protected]> wrote: Please also check Dendrolobium umbellatum. Just have second thought. Regards Prasad On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]> wrote: Nidhan ji, I think you were writing to me same time, as I was replying to Neil ji. Thanks for your encouraging words. Regards, Aarti On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Nidhan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: Thanks Aarti Ji for upload and Neil Ji for identification...I am yet to see this.. -- Regards, Dr. Nidhan Singh Assisstant Professor Department of Botany I.B. (PG) College Panipat-132103 Haryana Ph.: 09416371227 -- -- Dr. Prasad Kumar Dash Ecologist, Odisha, India email: [email protected] ph. 09437444241 -- -- -- -- --
