Could someone please enlighten me on how to distinguish this as E.oblongus ?
The leaves and mature red leaves seem to be common to all species. The bark is grey , mottled with black patches ( peeling bark??), while serraatus and sphericus are reported to have brownish barks. Thanks, A. Sinha <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i-I_7iJNmu8/ULso-rQ5C_I/AAAAAAAAAPc/cg0gtqwnnNI/s1600/Elaeocarpus.Q.jpg>Some history of this Tree: This tree stands outside the Nalknad palace/Hunting lodge, the last refuge of the last Kodava ( Coorgi) king who ousted Tipu from Coorg, but was finally vanquished by the British. It was then the thickest forest , and this tree was perhaps a sapling. <https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-vlgyglsGeRY/ULsoaGPhAMI/AAAAAAAAAPU/ptDFlRKQ3qY/s1600/Temple-Nalknad-Palace.jpg> On Saturday, December 1, 2012 5:12:10 PM UTC+5:30, JM Garg wrote: > > I am taking it as *Elaeocarpus* *oblongus* auct. non. Gaertn. 1788 as per > referred book links given below & modifying efi site page accordingly to > https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/e/elaeaocarpaceae/elaeocarpus/elaeocarpus-oblongus-1 > from > *Elaeocarpus* *oblongus* Gaertn. earlier: > > > http://books.google.co.in/books?id=eo-dTjK53O8C&pg=PA124&dq=elaeocarpus+oblongus&hl=en&sa=X&ei=BOS5UN_bF4r3rQeJzYDwDQ&ved=0CEMQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=elaeocarpus%20oblongus&f=false > > http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA191&dq=elaeocarpus+oblongus&hl=en&sa=X&ei=BOS5UN_bF4r3rQeJzYDwDQ&ved=0CDoQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=elaeocarpus%20oblongus&f=false > > http://books.google.co.in/books?id=RA4Npohz4CEC&pg=PA473&dq=elaeocarpus+oblongus&hl=en&sa=X&ei=BOS5UN_bF4r3rQeJzYDwDQ&ved=0CD0Q6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=elaeocarpus%20oblongus&f=false > > The Plant list & GRIN only mentions *Elaeocarpus* *oblongus* Gaertn. I > think we (those who do not have botanical books like me) have to refer to > such book links in future to get correct species with proper author > citation. > > > > On 11 June 2012 09:30, navendu page <[email protected] <javascript:>>wrote: > >> There seems to be lot of confusion in the nomenclature of WG's >> Elaeocarpus. >> >> I think this is Elaeocarpus oblongus (=E. variabilis, = E.glandulosus, = >> E.tectorius). Plant list for some reasons treats E.oblongus and >> E.variabilis as distinct taxa. >> >> E. serratus is very similar but slightly distinct in floral characters. >> Both these species occur in Coorg, however only the prior is found in >> Mahabaleshwar. >> >> navendu >> >> >> On 10 June 2012 17:25, jmgarg1 <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> A reply from Anil Rajbhar ji: >>> "Its look like *Elaeocarpus serratus* L.f, i have seen this tree very >>> common around Lingmala forest , Panchgani, its local name is Kashav, fruits >>> edible." >>> >>> On 10 June 2012 17:14, jmgarg1 <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: >>> >>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>> >>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>> >>>> “Some *Elaeocarpus* species. Rudraksha tree.” from Phadke >>>> ji. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: greenearth <[email protected] <javascript:>> >>>> Date: 28 May 2012 21:10 >>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:117953] Coorg Forest tree -- pls. id AS_28052012 >>>> To: [email protected] <javascript:> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9nc5eywYdP8/T8ObQNx8MoI/AAAAAAAAAKg/Cs1tvRXt9qk/s1600/AS-Coorg-Tree5.jpg>Pls >>>> >>>> id this Coorg forest tree flowering in February.<http://goog_441238314> >>>> <http://goog_441238314> Thanks and regardsA..Sinha >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species >>>> * & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged >>>> alphabetically & place-wise): >>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use >>>> them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: >>>> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1870 members >>>> & 1,18,000 messages on 31/5/12) or Efloraofindia website: >>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database >>>> of more than 6500 species). >>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>>> India'. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& >>> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged >>> alphabetically & place-wise): >>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use >>> them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: >>> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1870 members >>> & 1,18,000 messages on 31/5/12) or Efloraofindia website: >>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database >>> of more than 6500 species). >>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>> India'. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Navendu Page >> >> PhD student >> Kartik Shanker's Lab >> Center for Ecological Sciences >> Indian Institute of Science >> Bangalore - 560012 >> Ph: +91 9611053510 >> >> >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& > eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged > alphabetically & place-wise): > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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