A reply: "PLEASE SEE MY BOOK 'FOREST TREES OF THE WESTERN GHATS." from Sh. S G Neginhal.
On 2 December 2012 15:43, greenearth <[email protected]> wrote: > Could someone please enlighten me on how to distinguish this as E.oblongus > ? > > > The leaves and mature red leaves seem to be common to all species. > The bark is grey , mottled with black patches ( peeling bark??), while > serraatus and sphericus are reported to have brownish barks. > > Thanks, > A. Sinha > > > <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i-I_7iJNmu8/ULso-rQ5C_I/AAAAAAAAAPc/cg0gtqwnnNI/s1600/Elaeocarpus.Q.jpg>Some > history of this Tree: > This tree stands outside the Nalknad palace/Hunting lodge, the last > refuge of the last Kodava ( Coorgi) king who ousted Tipu from Coorg, but > was finally vanquished by the British. It was then the thickest forest , > and this tree was perhaps a sapling. > > > <https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-vlgyglsGeRY/ULsoaGPhAMI/AAAAAAAAAPU/ptDFlRKQ3qY/s1600/Temple-Nalknad-Palace.jpg> > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, December 1, 2012 5:12:10 PM UTC+5:30, JM Garg wrote: > >> I am taking it as *Elaeocarpus* *oblongus* auct. non. Gaertn. 1788 as >> per referred book links given below & modifying efi site page accordingly >> to https://sites.google.com/site/**efloraofindia/species/a---l/e/** >> elaeaocarpaceae/elaeocarpus/**elaeocarpus-oblongus-1<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/e/elaeaocarpaceae/elaeocarpus/elaeocarpus-oblongus-1> >> from >> *Elaeocarpus* *oblongus* Gaertn. earlier: >> >> http://books.google.co.in/**books?id=eo-dTjK53O8C&pg=** >> PA124&dq=elaeocarpus+oblongus&**hl=en&sa=X&ei=BOS5UN_** >> bF4r3rQeJzYDwDQ&ved=**0CEMQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=** >> elaeocarpus%20oblongus&f=false<http://books.google.co.in/books?id=eo-dTjK53O8C&pg=PA124&dq=elaeocarpus+oblongus&hl=en&sa=X&ei=BOS5UN_bF4r3rQeJzYDwDQ&ved=0CEMQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=elaeocarpus%20oblongus&f=false> >> http://books.google.co.in/**books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=** >> PA191&dq=elaeocarpus+oblongus&**hl=en&sa=X&ei=BOS5UN_** >> bF4r3rQeJzYDwDQ&ved=**0CDoQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=** >> elaeocarpus%20oblongus&f=false<http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA191&dq=elaeocarpus+oblongus&hl=en&sa=X&ei=BOS5UN_bF4r3rQeJzYDwDQ&ved=0CDoQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=elaeocarpus%20oblongus&f=false> >> http://books.google.co.in/**books?id=RA4Npohz4CEC&pg=** >> PA473&dq=elaeocarpus+oblongus&**hl=en&sa=X&ei=BOS5UN_** >> bF4r3rQeJzYDwDQ&ved=**0CD0Q6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=** >> elaeocarpus%20oblongus&f=false<http://books.google.co.in/books?id=RA4Npohz4CEC&pg=PA473&dq=elaeocarpus+oblongus&hl=en&sa=X&ei=BOS5UN_bF4r3rQeJzYDwDQ&ved=0CD0Q6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=elaeocarpus%20oblongus&f=false> >> >> The Plant list & GRIN only mentions *Elaeocarpus* *oblongus* Gaertn. I >> think we (those who do not have botanical books like me) have to refer to >> such book links in future to get correct species with proper author >> citation. >> >> >> >> On 11 June 2012 09:30, navendu page <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> There seems to be lot of confusion in the nomenclature of WG's >>> Elaeocarpus. >>> >>> I think this is Elaeocarpus oblongus (=E. variabilis, = E.glandulosus, = >>> E.tectorius). Plant list for some reasons treats E.oblongus and >>> E.variabilis as distinct taxa. >>> >>> E. serratus is very similar but slightly distinct in floral characters. >>> Both these species occur in Coorg, however only the prior is found in >>> Mahabaleshwar. >>> >>> navendu >>> >>> >>> On 10 June 2012 17:25, jmgarg1 <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> A reply from Anil Rajbhar ji: >>>> "Its look like *Elaeocarpus serratus* L.f, i have seen this tree very >>>> common around Lingmala forest , Panchgani, its local name is Kashav, fruits >>>> edible." >>>> >>>> On 10 June 2012 17:14, jmgarg1 <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>>> >>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>> >>>>> “Some *Elaeocarpus* species. Rudraksha tree.” from Phadke >>>>> ji. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>> From: greenearth <[email protected]> >>>>> Date: 28 May 2012 21:10 >>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:117953] Coorg Forest tree -- pls. id >>>>> AS_28052012 >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9nc5eywYdP8/T8ObQNx8MoI/AAAAAAAAAKg/Cs1tvRXt9qk/s1600/AS-Coorg-Tree5.jpg>Pls >>>>> id this Coorg forest tree flowering in February.<http://goog_441238314> >>>>> <http://goog_441238314> Thanks and regardsA..Sinha >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**User:Jmgarg1<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand >>>>> species* & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/* >>>>> *wiki/Category:J.M.Garg<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg>. >>>>> You >>>>> can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached >>>>> with each image. >>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: >>>>> http://groups.google.co.in/**group/indiantreepix<http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix>(more >>>>> than 1870 members & 1,18,000 messages on 31/5/12) or Efloraofindia >>>>> website: >>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/**efloraofindia/<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> >>>>> (with >>>>> a species database of more than 6500 species). >>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>>>> India'. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**User:Jmgarg1<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species >>>> * & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged >>>> alphabetically & place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/** >>>> wiki/Category:J.M.Garg<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg>. >>>> You >>>> can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached >>>> with each image. >>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: >>>> http://groups.google.co.in/**group/indiantreepix<http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix>(more >>>> than 1870 members & 1,18,000 messages on 31/5/12) or Efloraofindia >>>> website: >>>> https://sites.google.com/site/**efloraofindia/<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> >>>> (with >>>> a species database of more than 6500 species). >>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>>> India'. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Navendu Page >>> >>> PhD student >>> Kartik Shanker's Lab >>> Center for Ecological Sciences >>> Indian Institute of Science >>> Bangalore - 560012 >>> Ph: +91 9611053510 >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**User:Jmgarg1<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& >> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged >> alphabetically & place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/** >> wiki/Category:J.M.Garg<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg>. >> You >> can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with >> each image. >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: >> http://groups.google.co.in/**group/indiantreepix<http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix>(more >> than 2015 members & 1,39,500 messages on 30/11/12) or Efloraofindia >> website: >> https://sites.google.com/site/**efloraofindia/<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> >> (with >> a species database of more than 7500 species). >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >> India'. >> >> -- > > > > -- With regards, J.M.Garg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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