Sir,

I apologize for any audacity i have expressed in my earlier mails.

Being only an amateur photographer i only try to compare images with those
available in the net and take help in this group to know the id of plants i
see around me. I thought this plant is the same what had been recorded in
"Bengal Plants" as *Mallotus albus* Muell.-Arg.

I am very sorry for my last email and i understand that photographic
comparison or Flora of China is not the last word.

Thank you very much.

Regards.

surajit


On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]>wrote:

> Dear Sir,
> I request you to follow the undermentioned steps for satisfactory
> identification of your photographs which is without any voucher specimen
> (and you are not satisfied with the identification):
> First, please try to learn the range of variation of a widespread species.
>  Just forget about the flowering and fruiting time. Do you think that it is
> a new species as it is differing from Flora of China.  Then just publish it.
> Second, instead of looking at Flora of China, please consult the following
> publication: The family Euphorbiaceae in India by N.P.Balakrishnan and T.
> Chakrabarty, published in 2007 by Bishen Singh Mahendra Pal Singh, Dehra
> Dun.
> Third, please collect a specimen of your object and preserve it.  Next,
> visit Central National Herbarium, Howrah one day and compare your specimen
> with the specimens of Mallotus repandus.
> I hope, you will get the identity of your photographs.  Please remember
> that photographic identification is never authentic.
> Regards,
> T. Chakrabarty.
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:05 PM, surajit koley <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thank you very much Sir.
>>
>> But, the leaf pictures of *Mallotus repandus* (Willd.) Müll.Arg., found
>> in the FoC, looks different to me -
>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200012594.
>> Moreover flowering time also differs, that can also be found in the
>> description of *Rottlera dicocca* 
>> Roxb.<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-338096>in the Flora
>> Indica<http://ia600607.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?id=mobot31753000967882&itemPath=%2F18%2Fitems%2Fmobot31753000967882&server=ia600607.us.archive.org&page=n834_w1150.jpg>
>> .
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> surajit
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:58 AM, jmgarg1 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> A reply:
>>> "I do no remember the particular enquiries on Euphorbiaceae.  However I
>>> am giving the following identifications.
>>> .........................................
>>> Euphorbiaceae: Trevia, Croton and etc. perhaps from West Bengal:* It is
>>> Mallotus repandus.*
>>> Happy new year.
>>> Tapas Chakrabarty."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29 December 2012 20:59, Giby Kuriakose <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> It is neither Trewia nor Mallotus tetracoccus.
>>>> I think this is a straggling species. I think it could be a species of
>>>> Crotton
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Giby
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 29 December 2012 14:28, jmgarg1 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A reply:
>>>>> "I think I am mistaken,
>>>>> after detailed studies, I find that the leaves in Trevia are opposite
>>>>> whereas the leaves here are stated to be alternate. Please allow me one or
>>>>> two days for further confirmation. It might be a species of Mallotus.
>>>>> Wishing you all a happy and prosperous new year.
>>>>> TC."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 29 December 2012 13:22, jmgarg1 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A reply:
>>>>>> "Yes,
>>>>>> It is Trevia nudiflora, perhaps var. nudiflora. Fl. Malesiana people
>>>>>> reduced it to Mallotus. The references are as follows:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Trevia nudiflora* L., Sp. Pl. 1193. 1753; Müll.Arg. in DC., Prodr.
>>>>>> 15(2): 953. 1866; Hook.f., Fl. Brit. India 423. 1887. *Mallotus
>>>>>> nudiflorus* (L.) Kulju & Welzen, Blumea 52: 124. 2007." from Tapas
>>>>>> Chakrabarty ji.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 28 December 2012 21:41, jmgarg1 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Thank you Sir, this is a tree, found another one, about 20 ft
>>>>>>> high.
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> surajit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Surajit Ji. This is a member of Euphorbiaceae (Flowers are yet to
>>>>>>> open). I think once temperature increase they will start 
>>>>>>> flowering.Please
>>>>>>> check Trewia?
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Prasad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Thank you very much Prasad Ji,
>>>>>>>  This seems to be *Mallotus tetracoccus* (Roxb.) Kurz as in -
>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=109915&flora_id=2and
>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242331439
>>>>>>> Attaching new pictures, recorded today.
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> surajit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    efi site link:
>>>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/e/euphorbiaceae/mallotus/mallotus-tetracoccus
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>> From: surajit koley <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Date: 14 December 2012 21:49
>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:140578] tree or shrub from Hooghly 14/12/12
>>>>>>> sk
>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sir,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Found this tree or shrub beside a road in a dense thicket, it was
>>>>>>> not possible to ascertain if it was a tree or not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Species : UNKNOWN
>>>>>>> H & H : tree or shrub, leaves alternate, one or two branches bear
>>>>>>> spine
>>>>>>> Date : 14/12/12, 1.30 p.m.
>>>>>>> Place : Hooghly
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you & Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> surajit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
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>>>>>>> database of more than 7500 species).
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>>>>>>> of India'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand
>>>>>> species* & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
>>>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise):
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>>>>>> use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each
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>>>>>> database of more than 7500 species).
>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds
>>>>>> of India'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> With regards,
>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand
>>>>> species* & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
>>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise):
>>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use
>>>>> them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image
>>>>> .
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>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group:
>>>>> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 2015
>>>>> members & 1,39,500 messages on 30/11/12) or Efloraofindia website:
>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database
>>>>> of more than 7500 species).
>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
>>>>> India'.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD
>>>> Assistant Professor
>>>> PG and Research Department of Botany
>>>> Sacred Heart College
>>>> Thevara
>>>> Kochi- 682 013
>>>> Kerala, India
>>>> Phone - +914844044436 (office) +919947109987 (Mobile)
>>>> visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> With regards,
>>> J.M.Garg
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& 
>>> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged
>>> alphabetically & place-wise):
>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use
>>> them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian
>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group:
>>> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 2030 members
>>> & 1,42,000 messages on 31/12/12) or Efloraofindia website:
>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database
>>> of more than 7500 species).
>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
>>> India'.
>>>
>>
>>
>

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