Somewhere along the line something seems to have gone wrong with the email 
address for the Indology List. This is an attempt to get the correct info back 
into the conversation thread.

HHH


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From: "Hock, Hans Henrich via INDOLOGY" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Whitney and doubling of "ch"
Date: October 21, 2023 at 11:28:56 CDT
To: Harry Spier <[email protected]>
Cc: McComas Taylor via INDOLOGY <[email protected]>, 
"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "Hock, Hans Henrich" <[email protected]>

In a geminate, the consonant duration is longer and is distributed over two 
syllables; the first part forms the coda of the preceding syllable (and, if the 
vowel of that syllable is short, make the syllable heavy), the second part is 
the onset of the following syllable. (A geminate, however, is not a double 
consonant, in the sense that each part is released; rather the articulatory 
gesture for the consonant is held constant during the geminate.)

I hope this helps; please excuse the somewhat technical language.

HHH

On Oct 21, 2023, at 03:44, Harry Spier <[email protected]> wrote:

I asked if in the Rg-veda as chanted today, it is gachati or gacchati that is 
chanted and Madhav answered that in this youtube recording 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvk2JxmD7zI<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvk2JxmD7zI__;!!DZ3fjg!8FlAwo5r4YEjyYFgm1CcNqmAImPqcnnRcZhHLIdakLyfW9oZDgQ1ONi8tRyhN-hyXQKW8bWU61DBm4e9JEEPJOiAUT4$>
 he  heard gacchati.  But then I realized I'm not clear what the difference in 
pronounciation between a geminate and a non-geminate is.  In other words is the 
difference in pronounciation between gachati / gacchati ,  patra / pattra ,  
karma / karmma etc. just that the geminated syllable is held longer than if it 
was non-geminated or is it more like gach-ati / gach-chati , pa-tra /pat-tra , 
kar-ma /karm-ma
Thanks,
Harry Spier


On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 6:16 PM Madhav Deshpande 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
In this recitation, I hear गच्छति, rather than गछति.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvk2JxmD7zI<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvk2JxmD7zI__;!!DZ3fjg!8FlAwo5r4YEjyYFgm1CcNqmAImPqcnnRcZhHLIdakLyfW9oZDgQ1ONi8tRyhN-hyXQKW8bWU61DBm4e9JEEPJOiAUT4$>

Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India

[Residence: Campbell, California, USA]


On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 1:57 PM Harry Spier via INDOLOGY 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
To clarify one point. In the Rg-veda  as its chanted today, is whats chanted 
gacchati or gachati.
Harry Spier

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