Minor clarification. The examples I gave are from Google Translate not ChaptGPT but clearly what you say makes sense to that also. I'm wondering how does an AI application learn how to translate a language. Do human beings program in a bunch of translation rules of how to translate language x to language y and then these human beings refine the rules over time. Or is there a kind of general artificial intelligence programmed into a computer that is just fed thousands of sentences and their translations and from that it learns how to translate language x to language y and with more sentences fed in, it itself refines its translation ability.? In other words learning language translation almost like a human being, by practice.
Harry Spier On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 5:39 PM Antonia Ruppel <[email protected]> wrote: > The use of the past active participle to render the English past active is > to be expected: it’s the standard/most common way to render the past tense > in modern/spoken Sanskrit as taught eg by Samskrta Bharati, and I assume > that that’s the sort of Sanskrit that ChatGPT is trained on. Not applying > external sandhi also is not uncommon in modern Sanskrit, at least as used > by those who aren’t complete masters of the language the way eg Madhav is. > > Antonia > > On Mon 27 Nov 2023 at 23:29, Harry Spier via INDOLOGY < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Madhav wrote: >> >>> I hear that students are already beginning to use Google-Translator to >>> do their Sanskrit homework. >>> >>> I just did a little experiment. Taking a few of the english >> translations in Apte's "The Student's Guide to Sanskrit Composition" and >> comparing what Google Translator gave as a sanskrit translation of these, >> and comparing to the original sanskrit quotes . A couple of surprising >> things stood out. Surprising because these are fundamental things nothing >> subtle. Google translator seems to use sanskrit past active participle to >> translate english simple past. It doesn't seem to apply visarga sandhi, a >> completely mechanical process. >> >> In these examples, the yellow highlighted sanskrit is the citation from >> Apte, the blue highlighted sanskrit is the google sanskrit translation of >> Apte's english translation given below. >> >> Rama saw govinda >> >> rāmo govindamapaśyat >> >> rāmaḥ govindaṁ dṛṣṭavān >> >> >> I Salute the parents of the universe, Parvati and Paramesvara. >> >> jagataḥ pitarau vande pārvatīparameśvarau >> >> viśvasya mātāpitarau pārvatīṁ parameśvaraṁ ca namāmi >> >> >> He washed his hands and feet. >> >> hastau pādau cākṣālayat >> >> saḥ hastapādau prakṣālitavān। >> >> >> She shut her eyes >> >> sā locane nyamīlayat | >> >> sā netrāṇi nimīlitavatī >> >> >> So says the revered Shankara >> >> iti śrīśaṁkārācāryāḥ | >> >> tathā vadati pūjyaḥ śaṅkaraḥ। >> >> >> Thou art, therefore, a friend. >> >> tasmāt sakhā tvam asi >> >> tena tvaṁ mitram asi >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> >
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