:) :) :) On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 1:27 PM Valerie Roebuck <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don’t think we have a great deal to worry about while it produces a love > story about a young lady with more than two eyes. > > Valerie J Roebuck > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 28 Nov 2023, at 03:11, Ananya Vajpeyi via INDOLOGY < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > To my mind, the more pressing question is whether AI will imminently > obviate our work as teachers, linguists, translators and philologists, and > render us completely redundant in any sort of pedagogical role. > AV. > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 8:13 AM Harry Spier via INDOLOGY < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Minor clarification. The examples I gave are from Google Translate not >> ChaptGPT but clearly what you say makes sense to that also. >> I'm wondering how does an AI application learn how to translate a >> language. Do human beings program in a bunch of translation rules of how >> to translate language x to language y and then these human beings refine >> the rules over time. Or is there a kind of general artificial intelligence >> programmed into a computer that is just fed thousands of sentences and >> their translations and from that it learns how to translate language x to >> language y and with more sentences fed in, it itself refines its >> translation ability.? In other words learning language translation almost >> like a human being, by practice. >> >> Harry Spier >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 5:39 PM Antonia Ruppel <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> The use of the past active participle to render the English past active >>> is to be expected: it’s the standard/most common way to render the past >>> tense in modern/spoken Sanskrit as taught eg by Samskrta Bharati, and I >>> assume that that’s the sort of Sanskrit that ChatGPT is trained on. Not >>> applying external sandhi also is not uncommon in modern Sanskrit, at least >>> as used by those who aren’t complete masters of the language the way eg >>> Madhav is. >>> >>> Antonia >>> >>> On Mon 27 Nov 2023 at 23:29, Harry Spier via INDOLOGY < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Madhav wrote: >>>> >>>>> I hear that students are already beginning to use Google-Translator to >>>>> do their Sanskrit homework. >>>>> >>>>> I just did a little experiment. Taking a few of the english >>>> translations in Apte's "The Student's Guide to Sanskrit Composition" and >>>> comparing what Google Translator gave as a sanskrit translation of these, >>>> and comparing to the original sanskrit quotes . A couple of surprising >>>> things stood out. Surprising because these are fundamental things nothing >>>> subtle. Google translator seems to use sanskrit past active participle to >>>> translate english simple past. It doesn't seem to apply visarga sandhi, a >>>> completely mechanical process. >>>> >>>> In these examples, the yellow highlighted sanskrit is the citation from >>>> Apte, the blue highlighted sanskrit is the google sanskrit translation of >>>> Apte's english translation given below. >>>> >>>> Rama saw govinda >>>> >>>> rāmo govindamapaśyat >>>> >>>> rāmaḥ govindaṁ dṛṣṭavān >>>> >>>> >>>> I Salute the parents of the universe, Parvati and Paramesvara. >>>> >>>> jagataḥ pitarau vande pārvatīparameśvarau >>>> >>>> viśvasya mātāpitarau pārvatīṁ parameśvaraṁ ca namāmi >>>> >>>> >>>> He washed his hands and feet. >>>> >>>> hastau pādau cākṣālayat >>>> >>>> saḥ hastapādau prakṣālitavān। >>>> >>>> >>>> She shut her eyes >>>> >>>> sā locane nyamīlayat | >>>> >>>> sā netrāṇi nimīlitavatī >>>> >>>> >>>> So says the revered Shankara >>>> >>>> iti śrīśaṁkārācāryāḥ | >>>> >>>> tathā vadati pūjyaḥ śaṅkaraḥ। >>>> >>>> >>>> Thou art, therefore, a friend. >>>> >>>> tasmāt sakhā tvam asi >>>> >>>> tena tvaṁ mitram asi >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > > -- > *Ananya Vajpeyi* > https://www.csds.in/ananya_vajpeyi > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > [email protected] > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > -- *Ananya Vajpeyi* https://www.csds.in/ananya_vajpeyi
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