Bob Dew writes: =;-)


     Excerpts from mail: 1-Nov-95 Re: Oracle and AFS john [EMAIL PROTECTED] (3917)

     > Dept.  We run a network of 300+ Sun workstations for the entire College
     > of Engineering.  All the students have volumes in AFS and my mission in
     life to make sure that's the only file space I need to manage.

     I'm a strong proponent of using AFS for all its worth, but this idea
     doesn't sound at all practical.


     > The coursework is fairly straight forward, but each of the students
needs
     > to create their own databases, tables, and queries.


     > The Oracle sales people about had a heart attack when I told them
     > I wanted 40 floating "server" licenses.


     No doubt.  In the database arena, client/server is the only way to go.
     Students can create and administer their own separate databases from
     individual workstations via remote calls to a central server.  A
     plethora of  DBMS tools are around to support this.

     I don't see an advantage of requiring local, individual servers for
     teaching purposes.  The database itself is usually best implemented on a
     non-UFS file system, anyway, for efficiency and performance reasons.

     We once investigated using AFS for a database application (a campus-wide
     help desk system), mostly for the convince of having a built-in backup &
     recovery system and unlimited disk space, but concluded that AFS only
     complicated an otherwise efficient system.  We instead use a single
     database engine (Sybase) with dedicated mirrored disks, and allow
     client/server access from Unix hosts, PCs and Macs via a variety of
     TCP/IP based tools, including the Web.  We do, however, use AFS as
     convenient way to perform nightly backups -- the server, being an AFS
     client, dumps the databases each night via a cron job, then migrates the
     dump to AFS for long term archiving.  This is handy in that it doesn't
     require flipping tapes or manual intervention.

Can you please elaborate on HOW you have accomplished the automation of the AFS
backups ??

We are looking in solving the automation of our AFS backup which IMHO is not
possible in AFS 3.3(a)

TIA

Fred

>-- End of excerpt from Bob Dew



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