just to clarify, we maintain service subscriber lists using PTS, and we do
have groups with close to 8000 members.  however, i can't comment on
whether AFS can handle this "out of the box" or if we changed something
here at umich.

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On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 09:30:29 -0500, "Sarr Blumson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  said:

> 
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
> Brian Buhrow writes:
> >     Hello AFS users.  I'm wondering if anyone has experience with putting
> >large numbers of users in a group.  The manual for AFS 3.4 says that there
> >is a theoretical limit of 5000 users per group because the pts command
> >associated with the membership command can only display 5000 entries.  Is
> >this limit real?  Will pts insert more than 5,000 users in a group as long
> >as you don't try to display them?  Could I put 13,000 users in a group?
> >Does anyone have ideas for how to set up large groups that exceed this
> >theoretical limit?
> 
> At one time there were concerns about whether very large groups could be 
> replicated within the time limits required by ubik.  This may or may not stil
l 
> be an issue, but our (the University of Michigan) solution was to allow group
s 
> to be members of other groups, so that our very large groups could be broken 
> down into a number of smaller subgroups (possible to several levels).  I'm 
> actually not sure whether Transarc has done this either, but saying things th
at 
> aren't true any more usually helps get a response :-).
> 
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